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Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.
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I've got an alternative idea if this madness actually goes through and we can't find a solution to circumvent it legally or not....
Instead of just running, let's turn every single phone into a weapon of digital disobedience.Imagine if an 'outlaw' OS (or a simple mod) automatically appended a 'bag of forbidden words' to every message, hidden in metadata or invisible text, containing a random mix of terms guaranteed to trigger the system.
If millions of people sent billions of these 'poisoned' messages, Chat Control would collapse under the sheer weight of false positives. It would be the biggest DDoS attack in history, powered purely by civil disobedience......If everything is suspicious, nothing is.
#DDoS #FalsePositives #DataPoisoning #ChatContol #AgeVerification #AgeCheck
@anon_4601 @catsalad this has happened before. People found out about the CARNIVORE program and people started using scripts to append random triggering phrases to their emails.
The secret service just started going hard against randos and everybody cut it out real quick.
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Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.
@catsalad we live in an unpublished draft of a Cory Doctorow novel that he shelved for being too stupid.
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@anon_4601 @catsalad this has happened before. People found out about the CARNIVORE program and people started using scripts to append random triggering phrases to their emails.
The secret service just started going hard against randos and everybody cut it out real quick.
Exactly. That’s why it needs to spread like a 'virus', not a script users run.
Plausible deniability is key.....There are plenty of furious engineers right now. With Google forcing mandatory developer verification and closing AOSP, many open-source devs feel cornered. They are the perfect candidates to slip a tiny 'extra function' into their unsuspecting apps....
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@GerardThornley @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad for actually useful desktop computing, it still comes down to getting wafers fabbed. not too many advanced fabs around the world these days. Taiwan, South Korea, US, france, probably a few others.
@tubetime @GerardThornley @Amorpheus @catsalad
nobody said it was easy.
the first published linux version 0.01 was published in 1991.
Would anyone believe where this could go decades later? no!did anyone imagine open source 3D printers and a network of private ppl offering 3d printing services would ever be a thing?
etsy even offers 3d printing services.
It just needs a start.
There are projects like the https://mntre.com/ and a lot of open tech exists to further grow an ecosystem
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@serapath @catsalad I agree with you that the future will be what we decide it to be.
But FOSS is one thing. Chip and PCB design and production is another league, that we as a free and independent intellectual community cannot achieve that easily.
We can only create a market niche by supporting it where we can, hoping that some company will follow our call. But even then those companies will have to comply with national regulations.
national regulations
you mean regulatjons made by the epstein class?
its hard to regulate an open source bazaar where private ppl offer their printing services.
what are you exactly afraid of?
why wouldnt platforms like etsy or more open alternatives exist in the future? -
@GerardThornley @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad for actually useful desktop computing, it still comes down to getting wafers fabbed. not too many advanced fabs around the world these days. Taiwan, South Korea, US, france, probably a few others.
@tubetime @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad 🙂 yeah, I was kidding! I know we aren't going to knock up a PCB-based, GHz-speed, super-scalar, super-pipelined CPU in our sheds. (And the power consumption of you could! 🔥)
Now that I am thinking about it, though, I wonder what actually would be achievable for an enthusiastic amateur with means? For instance, would it be plausible for them to make an actual 6502 chip? At what point in the history of silicon manufacturing did cost and complexity make it utterly unachievable outside of the existing players in the industry?
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@GerardThornley @catsalad Right. I forgot. Can't have that "back in my day..." crap
And to think most of em still run the world today, like that stupid orange man.
@reallylazybear @catsalad aye. I heard something recently pointing out that the current shift rightwards in Western politics was really predictable - a combination of the bulge in the demographic as the boomer generation pass through their retirement years, coupled with the long-observed tendency of people to become more conservative as they get older.
I also heard that we're passing the peak in that bulge at the moment, so as long as no idiots cause another huge generational ripple in the demographics, things might start to get a bit more balanced again. -
@tubetime @Amorpheus @serapath @catsalad 🙂 yeah, I was kidding! I know we aren't going to knock up a PCB-based, GHz-speed, super-scalar, super-pipelined CPU in our sheds. (And the power consumption of you could! 🔥)
Now that I am thinking about it, though, I wonder what actually would be achievable for an enthusiastic amateur with means? For instance, would it be plausible for them to make an actual 6502 chip? At what point in the history of silicon manufacturing did cost and complexity make it utterly unachievable outside of the existing players in the industry?
@GerardThornley @tubetime @Amorpheus @catsalad
i do think in a fediverse world and beyond that peer to peer world, where people leave big tech and embrace self custody, may it be through self hosting (if ppl got the skills) or through embracing peer to peer apps where their identity is represented by a "seed phrase" that represents thei cryptographic keypair, which they write down and store away safely.
...hardware you can trust in is vital, even if it is slow, so ppl will buy open hardware🙂
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Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.
@catsalad
We should start a movement that does that. We'd need a catchy name, though.
Open Sauce or something like it. We should workshop that -
@catsalad @ramonfincken Reading through this concept, I’d like to remind everybody that constantly polling a big wide honking bracket can be used to pinpoint exact details. Replying “under 13” every day until today (you now reply “13-16”) means today is your 13th birthday. There is zero point in adding brackets when services can already determine your exact age using this method.
California needs to stop writing hopes & prayers and start writing laws which include expert guidance.
@ClickyMcTicker
At least they're not getting it straight away. Makes it harder for them.
@catsalad @ramonfincken -
@catsalad @ramonfincken Reading through this concept, I’d like to remind everybody that constantly polling a big wide honking bracket can be used to pinpoint exact details. Replying “under 13” every day until today (you now reply “13-16”) means today is your 13th birthday. There is zero point in adding brackets when services can already determine your exact age using this method.
California needs to stop writing hopes & prayers and start writing laws which include expert guidance.
@ClickyMcTicker @catsalad @ramonfincken that's why I have not already lied about my kids ages and set them up multiple accounts on web services they're not old enough to use yet.
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Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.
@catsalad If you're wondering why I just went through 19 hours of your toots, retooting multiple posts, mostly cat-related, it wasn't for any of the usual creepy reasons. I was determined to find and retoot this toot, after seeing it in a browser window just before said browser window dumped core.
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@catsalad
"Pssst, Hey kid, you want something that'll make your PC run like a thousands times better. (opens a coat to reveal USBs) I got a Mint, Arch, Zorin, Ubuntu, Debian if you feeling up for it I just got Pop!OS"@softspeak @catsalad This, but certain BSDs, 9Front, XV6, V7x86, Movitz, Native Oberon, UCSD p-System, and eventually, that rewrite of XV6 in SPARK Ada.
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Can't wait to use and promote illegal operating systems that do not verify age.
They'll be able to tell your age by the fact that you care about this issue. ;)
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we need to focus hard on building serious open hardware capacities, because if ppl will opt out of proprietary operating systems which verify age, they will move age verification into hardware, so we need to avoid proprietary hardware too. ...better to start immediately supporting that and sharing options, because its not a questiin IF, but only WHEN they will do that.
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sounds interesting.
is it something i can replace either my phone or laptop with or is that the goal?is there a way this can be leveraged in the future so many ppl can produce it to supply it to ppl everywhere? 🙂
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sounds interesting.
is it something i can replace either my phone or laptop with or is that the goal?is there a way this can be leveraged in the future so many ppl can produce it to supply it to ppl everywhere? 🙂
@serapath @catsalad Laptops, yes, and from a technical standpoint, phones should also be possible. Probably not phones that use existing phone networks, unfortunately, given the tight corporate and government control on what can connect to those networks. If some of the current mesh network projects continue to progress and spread, though, that might be less of an issue.
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@serapath @catsalad Laptops, yes, and from a technical standpoint, phones should also be possible. Probably not phones that use existing phone networks, unfortunately, given the tight corporate and government control on what can connect to those networks. If some of the current mesh network projects continue to progress and spread, though, that might be less of an issue.
is there a website or more information?
this sounds amazing.how "fast" is it?
if its basic, its still useful for some tasks, but if it could compare to modern low end laptops, those that you can maybe buy new for 100-200 USD, that would be great. you could then install a desktop OS and use web browsers and various programs ... of course no high end gaming or any other performance/resource hungry app ...but still -
is there a website or more information?
this sounds amazing.how "fast" is it?
if its basic, its still useful for some tasks, but if it could compare to modern low end laptops, those that you can maybe buy new for 100-200 USD, that would be great. you could then install a desktop OS and use web browsers and various programs ... of course no high end gaming or any other performance/resource hungry app ...but still@serapath @catsalad You can find some of them on opencores.org. Most of what they have recreates fairly basic old machines, but in among them are several RISC-V and ARM-like implementations which could run modern operating systems and applications. It would take community efforts to build working computing devices around cores burned into FPGAs, but once there is motivation, I'm confident it will happen.
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