@yosh Uh, uhm.
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@aeva wow that's wild, I thought vblank stuff ended when CRTs stopped being the mainstream display technology cause LCDs afaik display the whole picture at once(?)
@hazelnot I have it on good authority that the HDMI protocol involves an emulated virtual CRT, and audio and stuff all gets transmitted in the hblank. Displayport doesn't do that, but vsync is still a thing so I assume the concept of a vblank still exists mostly in the form of when it's safe to transmit a new image and/or the monitor signaling the speed which it can recieve or replace frames
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@hazelnot I have it on good authority that the HDMI protocol involves an emulated virtual CRT, and audio and stuff all gets transmitted in the hblank. Displayport doesn't do that, but vsync is still a thing so I assume the concept of a vblank still exists mostly in the form of when it's safe to transmit a new image and/or the monitor signaling the speed which it can recieve or replace frames
@hazelnot keep in mind that 4k images are huge and don't transmit instantaneously, so there's still a cadence even if it's not a (real or virtual) electron beam
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@hazelnot keep in mind that 4k images are huge and don't transmit instantaneously, so there's still a cadence even if it's not a (real or virtual) electron beam
@aeva I've never had a 4K anything tbh 😅
The biggest resolution I think I'll ever need is 2560x1600
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@hazelnot I have it on good authority that the HDMI protocol involves an emulated virtual CRT, and audio and stuff all gets transmitted in the hblank. Displayport doesn't do that, but vsync is still a thing so I assume the concept of a vblank still exists mostly in the form of when it's safe to transmit a new image and/or the monitor signaling the speed which it can recieve or replace frames
@aeva god that's so cursed, another reason to dislike HDMI 😭
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@aeva I've never had a 4K anything tbh 😅
The biggest resolution I think I'll ever need is 2560x1600
@hazelnot so, consider: whichever cable you are using to connect your GPU to your screen most likely does not have 2560x1600=4096000 wires in it
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@hazelnot so, consider: whichever cable you are using to connect your GPU to your screen most likely does not have 2560x1600=4096000 wires in it
@aeva nonsense, I connect the monitor to my PC via one of those undersea transcontinental fiber conduits :P
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@aeva ...oh, so I'm basically not doing anything and I have to choose between cooking my PC and having bad aim? 💀
@hazelnot yes, however strictly speaking you also have the option of "turn the graphical settings down", and if your computer is a desktop PC then you theoretically also have the option of "simply improve your computer's cooling and/or hardware specs by some means"
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@hazelnot yes, however strictly speaking you also have the option of "turn the graphical settings down", and if your computer is a desktop PC then you theoretically also have the option of "simply improve your computer's cooling and/or hardware specs by some means"
@aeva if I turn the settings down it just generates even more frames instead, and improving cooling is expensive cause I'd need a new case and/or liquid cooling (or a GPU without a goddamn blower fan which is even more expensive) 😔
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@aeva if I turn the settings down it just generates even more frames instead, and improving cooling is expensive cause I'd need a new case and/or liquid cooling (or a GPU without a goddamn blower fan which is even more expensive) 😔
@hazelnot turn the settings down and leave vsync on, I mean. that will cause the latency between the CPU and GPU to drop if the CPU work is finishing fast enough to do so.
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@hazelnot turn the settings down and leave vsync on, I mean. that will cause the latency between the CPU and GPU to drop if the CPU work is finishing fast enough to do so.
@hazelnot I'm not convinced that frame tearing allows you to experience the game faster than your monitor's refresh rate, it just lets you randomly experience multiple views of the game from different points in time at your monitor's refresh rate. I haven't seen any research on this, so this is speculation on my part.
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@aeva nonsense, I connect the monitor to my PC via one of those undersea transcontinental fiber conduits :P
@hazelnot I can't find it because all of the search terms I can think of are overloaded with common products, but I saw an article about a display that was an array of fiber optic wires, one per pixel. it was an art installation
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@aeva god that's so cursed, another reason to dislike HDMI 😭
@hazelnot it's not an entirely unreasonable protocol, but it's less versatile than display port, which is packet based