@bryan yeah, I think it's probably a miserable existence, but I were going out there, I'd be going out there to win it. If I'm going to suffer for weeks or months, I'd want a return.
And, so many of these folks are making terrible decisions, wasting effort, calories, and time, on absolutely ridiculous projects. It is remarkable how bad these decisions are. We're clearly several generations away from needing to actually live off the land. Ancestral memory clearly doesn't include preserving food.