This is an area I think we could improve on the Fediverse —

[celbri@misskey.id]

@reiver@mastodon.social We have this on Misskey and its forks, it's working really well!

[sandycorzeta@misskey.id]

@reiver@mastodon.social The Pleroma hellthread will enlighten them

[emsquared@social.coop]

@reiver I think both elk.zone and phanpy.social display comments better than the default Mastodon.

[wjmaggos@liberal.city]

@reiver

even better imo would be to adopt the reddit approach. rank and sort replies.

[julian@activitypub.space]

@reiver@mastodon.social the Fediverse already has this.

It's called the threadiverse 😏

[wjmaggos@liberal.city]

@julian @reiver

I want them to merge more. or perhaps I want everybody to have the best features. the tricky part is how threadiverse seems more about private groups vs mastodon etc being public and about journalism going organically viral.

we've gotta talk more about this difference. big vs small fedi. social media vs social networking. they require different moderation.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

I honestly don't ee the point to twitter clones. famous people or anyone really, can make a community around their name just like they do with youtube channels. I like how mbin has a place for posting stuff and I think that should be in lemmy/piefed as well and should just appear as communities with the username in the domain. it should be the same as any community and the user acts as the creator and head moderator that cannot be removed and can fill out the sidebar with stuff about themselves (im a comic cretor super interested in astronomy, or whatever) and by default is should be private but people can move it to public if they want to utilize it as a personal forum.

[wjmaggos@liberal.city]

@HubertManne

the point of having one open network that feels built around something like a twitter clone is displacing the power of corporate media and big money over public attention (eventually civics). it's not microblogging but a social news feed. your social graph (and how that indirectly ties into everyone else's graph) should determine what info, ideas and art goes viral. because something/somebody will. better that than a few rich media owners, their advertisers or big tech algos.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

I just don't think that is going to happen honestly. Better we just chart the best course we can and to me its better to keep from splitting the users to. I don't see why posts from communities can't go viral.

[wjmaggos@liberal.city]

@HubertManne

if I understand that world correctly, I think they should. I want it all to work together. I think every article, podcast, video, song etc should be a post that can be boosted ala mastodon etc but also have all the functionality of the threadiverse. hashtags should work like communities. ranked/sorted replies etc.

the problem afaik is that the threadiverse works more like private groups. the item could go viral but not be as open to everyone as a mastodon post. maybe I'm wrong.

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

I mean I can look at threaiverse things without having an account so not sure what would make it not open. It already has upvotes so not sure what more could be about boosting. I mean I don't want to be able to look at a feed that is more in conrol by me than an algorithm. granted algorithms are fine but I hope we can incorporate more how trust cafe does weighting.

[wjmaggos@liberal.city]

@HubertManne

algos we control are fine.

I cannot interact with a lemmy post like I can a mastodon post. I would like to boost it so others who follow me will see it. I would like to reply.

I admit I do not fully understand that world but I don't get the difference between your communities and our hashtags. I wish we could sort via hashtag.

etc etc

[hubertmanne@piefed.social]

ok yeah. we don't have the follower thing is I think the main thing. Which I could totally see being added. It should essentially be the same as subscribing to a community. The trust cafe thing is great though as it has a 0 to 100 sorta percent rating system so 100 is like subscribing/following and 0 would be like blocking and the numbers in between sorta give more nuance. I believe the way it works everything not rated is treated as 50.