I'm a "but..." because private accounts are kind of frustrating on Mastodon.
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I'm a "but..." because private accounts are kind of frustrating on Mastodon. When you reply to a followers-only post on Mastodon, for example, the response is legible only to *your* followers, not the followers of the person you replied to. So, the conversation diminishes rapidly. This is a bug.
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I'm a "but..." because private accounts are kind of frustrating on Mastodon. When you reply to a followers-only post on Mastodon, for example, the response is legible only to *your* followers, not the followers of the person you replied to. So, the conversation diminishes rapidly. This is a bug.
Second, there's an in-between kind of audience -- a set of people that I don't know personally, but that I trust some smart moderators have vetted. Facebook Groups work like this, for instance; well-managed mailing lists and chat groups work this way, too. My hope is that the work that we're doing for groups in the SocialCG will help with this: https://github.com/swicg/groups
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Second, there's an in-between kind of audience -- a set of people that I don't know personally, but that I trust some smart moderators have vetted. Facebook Groups work like this, for instance; well-managed mailing lists and chat groups work this way, too. My hope is that the work that we're doing for groups in the SocialCG will help with this: https://github.com/swicg/groups
Finally, there's that extra step of end-to-end encryption (E2EE) that protects the content even from your (and their) server operator. I think the current work on bringing MLS to ActivityPub will help with that a lot. https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-e2ee
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Finally, there's that extra step of end-to-end encryption (E2EE) that protects the content even from your (and their) server operator. I think the current work on bringing MLS to ActivityPub will help with that a lot. https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-e2ee
@evan So I think you need to think about audiences. Compare Bluesky. Mastodon launched very "closed" and Bluesky launched very "open". And Bluesky users all want *more* privacy features than they have, but the overall thing is Mastodon attracted a *very* privacy-conscious crowd and Bluesky less so. Which means I think some scraping-based features which are *entirely defensible*, and which Bluesky users would love, would find bad traction with the Mastodon userbase *specifically*. We self-sorted.
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@evan So I think you need to think about audiences. Compare Bluesky. Mastodon launched very "closed" and Bluesky launched very "open". And Bluesky users all want *more* privacy features than they have, but the overall thing is Mastodon attracted a *very* privacy-conscious crowd and Bluesky less so. Which means I think some scraping-based features which are *entirely defensible*, and which Bluesky users would love, would find bad traction with the Mastodon userbase *specifically*. We self-sorted.
@evan Are the SocialCG "groups" different from the thing Lemmy is already using?
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@evan So I think you need to think about audiences. Compare Bluesky. Mastodon launched very "closed" and Bluesky launched very "open". And Bluesky users all want *more* privacy features than they have, but the overall thing is Mastodon attracted a *very* privacy-conscious crowd and Bluesky less so. Which means I think some scraping-based features which are *entirely defensible*, and which Bluesky users would love, would find bad traction with the Mastodon userbase *specifically*. We self-sorted.
@mcc I don't understand your point. The whole thread is about avoiding scraping. I didn't say anything about adding scraping-based features.
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@evan Are the SocialCG "groups" different from the thing Lemmy is already using?
@mcc yes.
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