@dexter @mwl That's easy.

[mason@partychickens.net]

@dexter @mwl That's easy. "Dev-Ops" culture is incompatible with release engineering and formal operations both. You see formal release engineering in big corps and almost nowhere else.

[dexter@bsd.network]

@mason @mwl Aside from hundreds of “distros”, many of which are all releng with little or no dev.

Other example events and resources welcome.

[winterschon@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@dexter @mason @mwl someone mentioned distro hopping? releng is the domain of experts, devops is a cloud marketing career catastrophe — luckily it will be wholly consumed by machine-learning based automation tools (already in progress, look to IBM and ORCL) and sooner rather than later would be fantastic.