#AI hallucination in #wikipedia is disheartening.
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#AI hallucination in #wikipedia is disheartening. This topped a search result (startpage). I at once knew it is false for I've never heard of "Basimba community". It mixes it up with an actual people, the Ngo (leopard) clan of Buganda. Proof of hallucination? It claims to be a Ugandan community but mentions places in Angola, and Portuguese (who never came anywhere close). I've seen other wiki articles of this thing, and also in grok vomit.
Can anyone fix it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_people -
#AI hallucination in #wikipedia is disheartening. This topped a search result (startpage). I at once knew it is false for I've never heard of "Basimba community". It mixes it up with an actual people, the Ngo (leopard) clan of Buganda. Proof of hallucination? It claims to be a Ugandan community but mentions places in Angola, and Portuguese (who never came anywhere close). I've seen other wiki articles of this thing, and also in grok vomit.
Can anyone fix it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_people@dilmandila I reverted their edits.
"I've seen other wiki articles of this thing" - can you give me a full list here so I can revert the relevant edits where possible?
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Nope. Remember, they've sold out.
@BenHM3 @dilmandila You seem to have a serious misunderstanding of how Wikipedia is run.
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#AI hallucination in #wikipedia is disheartening. This topped a search result (startpage). I at once knew it is false for I've never heard of "Basimba community". It mixes it up with an actual people, the Ngo (leopard) clan of Buganda. Proof of hallucination? It claims to be a Ugandan community but mentions places in Angola, and Portuguese (who never came anywhere close). I've seen other wiki articles of this thing, and also in grok vomit.
Can anyone fix it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_people@dilmandila Note that User:Sapphaline edited the article to "revert to version before ai slop": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Basimba_people&diff=1336221260&oldid=1335156801 That was about one hour after your post here. Does that resolve the issue?
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@dilmandila I reverted their edits.
"I've seen other wiki articles of this thing" - can you give me a full list here so I can revert the relevant edits where possible?
@vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk this also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_clan_names
But perhaps anything that comes up in the wiki search for 'basimba' should be looked at with suspicion. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=basimba&title=Special:Search&ns0=1
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@vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk this also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_clan_names
But perhaps anything that comes up in the wiki search for 'basimba' should be looked at with suspicion. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=basimba&title=Special:Search&ns0=1
@dilmandila There were no substantive edits on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_clan_names since 2017.
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@dilmandila There were no substantive edits on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_clan_names since 2017.
@vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk The whole article is a lie. 'Basimba' does not exist.
Simba is Swahili for Lion. Mpologoma is Luganda for Lion. This claims to be a Kiganda clan, so the right clan should be Mpologoma.
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@BenHM3 @dilmandila You seem to have a serious misunderstanding of how Wikipedia is run.
I like tripping rat traps: Ok, do tell. What do you think I misunderstand about how Wkipedia/Wikimedia is run?
Wait, I need to make some popcorn...
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@dilmandila There were no substantive edits on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_clan_names since 2017.
@dilmandila As for other articles in the search results:
* "Clans of Baganda" had some policy-non-compliant edits (and was rightfully tagged for prose issues afterwards), but the editor behind them definitely didn't use AI (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clans_of_Baganda&diff=prev&oldid=1300160882 (scroll to "Inheritance" section)).
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@dilmandila Note that User:Sapphaline edited the article to "revert to version before ai slop": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Basimba_people&diff=1336221260&oldid=1335156801 That was about one hour after your post here. Does that resolve the issue?
@harry_wood Most likely!
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@dilmandila As for other articles in the search results:
* "Clans of Baganda" had some policy-non-compliant edits (and was rightfully tagged for prose issues afterwards), but the editor behind them definitely didn't use AI (see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clans_of_Baganda&diff=prev&oldid=1300160882 (scroll to "Inheritance" section)).
@dilmandila
* "US Chantilly" didn't have substantive edits since 2017.
* "Ethnic groups in Gabon", "Budaka, Uganda" and "
JA Drancy" didn't have subsantive edits since 2020.
* "Kooki" had AI-generated edits by the same person whom I reverted on "Basimba people", I'll revert these too.
* "Buganda" had recent content additions, but they are not AI-generated.
* "Pre-colonial history of the Democratic Republic of the Congo" had one substantive edit in 2024, and it's definitely not AI-generated. -
Nope. Remember, they've sold out.
AIUI, they have made a deal with some AI companies so they can **access** content more swiftly.
This route does not **edit** content.
It is not in the interests of LLM training data to edit Wikipedia.
Most likely the AIslop is added by humans who want to improve the article, and use AI to do so. But I do not know. One thing few AI users understand is how AI echoes their own biases, amplifying them, rather than responding objectively.
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@dilmandila
* "US Chantilly" didn't have substantive edits since 2017.
* "Ethnic groups in Gabon", "Budaka, Uganda" and "
JA Drancy" didn't have subsantive edits since 2020.
* "Kooki" had AI-generated edits by the same person whom I reverted on "Basimba people", I'll revert these too.
* "Buganda" had recent content additions, but they are not AI-generated.
* "Pre-colonial history of the Democratic Republic of the Congo" had one substantive edit in 2024, and it's definitely not AI-generated.@dilmandila
* "Medieval and early modern Africa" had one substantive edit in 2024, and it's definitely not AI-generated. -
#AI hallucination in #wikipedia is disheartening. This topped a search result (startpage). I at once knew it is false for I've never heard of "Basimba community". It mixes it up with an actual people, the Ngo (leopard) clan of Buganda. Proof of hallucination? It claims to be a Ugandan community but mentions places in Angola, and Portuguese (who never came anywhere close). I've seen other wiki articles of this thing, and also in grok vomit.
Can anyone fix it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basimba_people@dilmandila Can you please add a comment on the discussion page so this important information is not lost? thanks. yes it's awful.
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I like tripping rat traps: Ok, do tell. What do you think I misunderstand about how Wkipedia/Wikimedia is run?
Wait, I need to make some popcorn...
@BenHM3 @dilmandila Wikipedia isn't edited by Wikimedia Foundation.
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@vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk The whole article is a lie. 'Basimba' does not exist.
Simba is Swahili for Lion. Mpologoma is Luganda for Lion. This claims to be a Kiganda clan, so the right clan should be Mpologoma.
@dilmandila @vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk Thank you so much for taking care. You should edit the article. Even if not perfect, your knowledge has infinitely more value than any slop.
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@vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk The whole article is a lie. 'Basimba' does not exist.
Simba is Swahili for Lion. Mpologoma is Luganda for Lion. This claims to be a Kiganda clan, so the right clan should be Mpologoma.
@dilmandila If all of this, in your opinion, is a massive hoax, I think you should bring this up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous) or something. Currently I don't have enough motivation to deal with it.
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@dilmandila @vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk Thank you so much for taking care. You should edit the article. Even if not perfect, your knowledge has infinitely more value than any slop.
@f4grx @vcxbxkmgdfmkgdmk I'm not a Wiki editor, but I think this is not a case for editing the article, but rather deleting the whole thing as it is a fabrication.
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La destra ha affossato definitivamente il voto fuorisede.
Sono nervosi, vedono il consenso del NO aumentare. Hanno paura di perdere.
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@reflex @eldersea @davidgerard @theorangetheme @firefoxwebdevs https://stateof.mozilla.org/ has some detail
you have to guard your eyes against the rather horrendous antidesign made the taste for paper
but once you get into the details you also see that moz is >=$1.4b flush
which ..... is a tad beyond fat
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@quinta đ decisamente...
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@lisyarus nice!
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@eldersea @davidgerard @theorangetheme @froztbyte @firefoxwebdevs I think Google money made them too fat, they don't need to listen to their actual user base because their salaries get paid no matter what.
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@paul @firefoxwebdevs to be clear, I'm blocked by his personal account not the work account
but... yeah. it does seem that calling them on their nonsense gets an Amplified Response. in one of the most classic abuser patterns.
lolshrug, nothing new under the sun etc etc
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@reflex @davidgerard @theorangetheme @froztbyte @firefoxwebdevs
You know how there's always a sucker holding the bag at the end of every con? I feel like Firefox is that, for AI.
It's like with anything hot, by the time your boomer relative says it, it's dead and has been for years, but the carcass is still at Bernie's and miraculously sitting up.
