It's 2006. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
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It's 2006. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2016. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2026. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
@eniko you could leave "in C" out and it would be about the same
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@eniko you could leave "in C" out and it would be about the same
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@scottmichaud @eniko vibe coders 🤝concurrency programmers
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@eniko you could leave "in C" out and it would be about the same
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@eniko Well, yes... But rest assured, threads in C++ are awful. Threads in Java are awful. Threads in Python are double-plus awful.
And they're still needed, so have an ice cream (or other treat) every time you added tread-using code to your project.
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It's 2006. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2016. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2026. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
@eniko Have you heard the good news about our lord and savior Rust yet?
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@eniko
pthreads! The "g" is for "good"@silvermoon82 and the w is for works well in windows
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@eniko Why so awful ??
@gilesgoat idk it's like all the bad stuff of working with threads but also none of the conveniences. In fact more like a giant pile of additional inconveniences
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@eniko Well, yes... But rest assured, threads in C++ are awful. Threads in Java are awful. Threads in Python are double-plus awful.
And they're still needed, so have an ice cream (or other treat) every time you added tread-using code to your project.
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@eniko Well, yes... But rest assured, threads in C++ are awful. Threads in Java are awful. Threads in Python are double-plus awful.
And they're still needed, so have an ice cream (or other treat) every time you added tread-using code to your project.
@halla I've worked with threads in other languages before. They're always bad but C makes it a lot worse
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@pixx it's just as bad as working with threads in any other language but there's no functional standard and the api is worse
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@eniko you could leave "in C" out and it would be about the same
@joe but threads in C are worse than any other language
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It's 2006. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2016. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2026. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
"Oh well threads are bad in <other language> too"
No you don't understand. Working with threads in C doesn't really actually work and if you do get it to work it's still so much fucking worse than working with threads in any other language
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@silvermoon82 and the w is for works well in windows
@eniko
Oof, *windows* threads in C! Fun fun! -
@eniko
Oof, *windows* threads in C! Fun fun!@silvermoon82 well wtf good is writing something in C if it's not maximally portable :/
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"Oh well threads are bad in <other language> too"
No you don't understand. Working with threads in C doesn't really actually work and if you do get it to work it's still so much fucking worse than working with threads in any other language
Like, I'm *good* at avoiding the pitfalls of threads. Normally. In any other language that *isn't* C
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Like, I'm *good* at avoiding the pitfalls of threads. Normally. In any other language that *isn't* C
Oh what's that? C11 standardized threads.h? OK well the api looks pretty trash but I guess anything's better than pthreads. Let me just open VS2022, msvc, ok... #include <threads.h>
....... why are there like two dozen compiler errors *in the damn header*?
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It's 2006. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2016. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
It's 2026. I'm working with threads in C and it's awful
@eniko Consistency is nice I guess? -
@khleedril @eniko
Are they though?
Threads have a lot more problems than memory issues
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Oh what's that? C11 standardized threads.h? OK well the api looks pretty trash but I guess anything's better than pthreads. Let me just open VS2022, msvc, ok... #include <threads.h>
....... why are there like two dozen compiler errors *in the damn header*?
"Oh well if you're writing C you should be running Linu-"
I am not going to switch operating systems just to make it 5% less miserable to work with threads in C!!!
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@mrotteveel Lol it's a good suggestion, but holy crap are model train sets expensive!!
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@Gina And I hadn't even read this reply yet when I wrote that: https://fosstodon.org/@Gina/116186923720078396
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@Gina A model train starter kit?
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@Gina an interrail ticket :-)
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@peppenamir @uaar tutto torna
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@Gina Artiscard or another subscription to a zoo.
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@Gina not really a present, but would a repair cafe be a place for him?
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The first ten minutes I spent on social media this morning made me feel all kinds of things. Why is it that people who routinely use LLMs are so loud and brash and proud, making these tools appear as essential and inevitable?
A post by a dev whose app I use said something along the lines of: "no use exercising your coding skills, AI is too good now, you can't compete with it anyway".
Another post by a user on an instance I try to engage with wrote - literally: "tired of overthinking every decision?" and then disclosed he had created an AI that will "run a weighted decision matrix so you don't have to." In all seriousness.
What is this dystopian world where human qualities are devalued, critical thinking is discarded and surveillance capitalism is ignored at the altar of AI worship?
If they are loud and proud, maybe so I can be too... but in the opposite direction.
This weekend I will start the MIT's Missing Semester class (the 2020 Lectures, so pre-AI) because in this brave new world hyping up techno-fascist LLMs, knowing the basics of code are essential IMHO.
So my March "project" will be a deep dive in MIT's Missing Semester and my April project will be off-grid mesh radio communication.
What about you, what are you doing to resist?
Special props to @emilymbender @cwebber and @tante for being outspoken on these issues... you're my beacons of hope
#NoAI
