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  4. I wrote in support of @thisismissem's letter saying that ATProto and ActivityPub ecosystems ought to engage kindly and constructively with each other.

I wrote in support of @thisismissem's letter saying that ATProto and ActivityPub ecosystems ought to engage kindly and constructively with each other.

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    I wrote in support of @thisismissem's letter saying that ATProto and ActivityPub ecosystems ought to engage kindly and constructively with each other. https://writings.thisismissem.social/statement-on-discourse-about-activitypub-and-at-protocol/

    I have explained my thinking more here: https://github.com/swicg/general/pull/45#issuecomment-3263275752

    We face a lot of threats, especially ones greater than each other right now. We should challenge each other, but it is worth engaging so in a constructive way.

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    • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

      I wrote in support of @thisismissem's letter saying that ATProto and ActivityPub ecosystems ought to engage kindly and constructively with each other. https://writings.thisismissem.social/statement-on-discourse-about-activitypub-and-at-protocol/

      I have explained my thinking more here: https://github.com/swicg/general/pull/45#issuecomment-3263275752

      We face a lot of threats, especially ones greater than each other right now. We should challenge each other, but it is worth engaging so in a constructive way.

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      Note that it isn't that I am unwilling to critique ATProto. I have written the most cited critiques of ATProto on the internet.

      Critique is good. And challenging each other is good.

      But let's be constructive and kind.

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      • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

        Note that it isn't that I am unwilling to critique ATProto. I have written the most cited critiques of ATProto on the internet.

        Critique is good. And challenging each other is good.

        But let's be constructive and kind.

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        @cwebber facts. You can disagree, and even point out weaknesses, challenges, and pitfalls without being rude or unkind. Even simple bluntness doesn't require saying things like, "any idiot would know this"

        I /like/ when people point out where I failed, and things I've failed to consider so I can consider those

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        • skaundefined
          ska

          julian Oh, you're right. I never did it manually and they must have defederated for some reason.

          Sorry, but I absolutely hadn't noticed this, so I'd say the problem with NodeBB is solved then 🙂

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        • julianundefined
          julian

          ska can you please check that those three posts are actually federated outwards?

          The human-readable URLs don't contain the expected Link header to the ActivityPub resource.

          e.g.

          link: ; rel="friends-base-url" link: ; rel="https://api.w.org/" link: ; rel="alternate"; title="JSON"; type="application/json" link: ; rel=shortlink

          It does contain the shortlink, which I tried to pull with the appropriate Accept header, but was sent HTML in response.

          Perhaps there is a toggle you can press to enable federation on those posts?

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        • julianundefined
          julian

          Confirming at this time that at least the first URL shared does not get pulled in. Debugging.

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        • skaundefined
          ska

          julian said in Can't view my Wordpress federated post:
          > ska which one doesn't work?
          >
          > Does it work here?

          I'm still on the dev branch and almost all of them work, but not all. For example:

          https://www.lealternative.net/2020/10/13/giocare-a-tron-online
          https://www.lealternative.net/2020/03/25/alternative-ad-android/
          https://www.lealternative.net/2023/02/24/native-alpha/

          These don't work.

          In the logs, only the GET request is visible, but without the response.

          Most of those that didn't work before now do, such as: https://www.lealternative.net/2025/09/10/abbiamo-provato-la-vpn-a-pagamento-di-duckduckgo/

          Also, all Mastodon posts now seem to work, whereas many had problems before.

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        • julianundefined
          julian

          ska which one doesn't work?

          Does it work here?

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        • skaundefined
          ska

          julian Just for completeness: some old Wordpress posts still aren't working. It's still better than before because, for example, the more recent ones are now visible, but it still seems worse to me than it was before v4.5.0.

          2025-09-11T14:58:06.590Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2023/02/24/native-alpha/ 2025-09-11T14:58:09.045Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2020/03/25/alternative-ad-android/ 2025-09-11T14:58:17.600Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2020/10/13/giocare-a-tron-online/ 2025-09-11T14:58:18.673Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Starting signature verification... 2025-09-11T14:58:18.674Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Retrieving pubkey for https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/tillku#main-key 2025-09-11T14:58:18.676Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/tillku#main-key 2025-09-11T14:58:19.415Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] Received 404 when querying https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/tillku#main-key 2025-09-11T14:58:19.416Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] Error received: Not Found 2025-09-11T14:58:19.416Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Failed, key retrieval or verification failure. 2025-09-11T14:58:19.416Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [middleware/activitypub] HTTP signature verification failed. 2025-09-11T14:58:33.567Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2020/08/11/giocare-ad-asteroids/ 2025-09-11T14:59:10.865Z [4567/205275] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2022/04/01/connecman/
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        • julianundefined
          julian

          ska ok great news thank you!

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        • skaundefined
          ska

          this is what i got on shell when i search a wordpress post (that does not work on stable version) but now it works:

          2025-09-11T14:44:01.289Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/2025/09/10/abbiamo-provato-la-vpn-a-pagamento-di-duckduckgo/ 2025-09-11T14:44:01.549Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Starting signature verification... 2025-09-11T14:44:01.551Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Retrieving pubkey for https://babka.social/users/Michael54_#main-key 2025-09-11T14:44:01.553Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://babka.social/users/Michael54_#main-key 2025-09-11T14:44:01.993Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] Received 404 when querying https://babka.social/users/Michael54_#main-key 2025-09-11T14:44:01.993Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] Error received: Not Found 2025-09-11T14:44:01.993Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/verify] Failed, key retrieval or verification failure. 2025-09-11T14:44:01.993Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [middleware/activitypub] HTTP signature verification failed. 2025-09-11T14:44:02.243Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/?p=63789 2025-09-11T14:44:02.726Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/wp-json/activitypub/1.0/posts/63789/context 2025-09-11T14:44:02.975Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/context] Retrieving context/page https://www.lealternative.net/wp-json/activitypub/1.0/posts/63789/context 2025-09-11T14:44:02.975Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/context] Retrieved https://www.lealternative.net/?p=63789 2025-09-11T14:44:02.975Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/context] Parsing https://www.lealternative.net/?p=63789 2025-09-11T14:44:02.982Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/mocks.post] Received image not identified as image due to MIME type: https://www.lealternative.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/duckduckgoprivacypro-1024x576.jpg 2025-09-11T14:44:02.984Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/context] Found 1 items. 2025-09-11T14:44:02.990Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/actors] Asserting 2 actor(s) 2025-09-11T14:44:02.990Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/actors] Processing https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public 2025-09-11T14:44:02.990Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/actors] Processing https://www.lealternative.net/wp-json/activitypub/1.0/actors/1/followers 2025-09-11T14:44:03.004Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public 2025-09-11T14:44:03.004Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/get] https://www.lealternative.net/wp-json/activitypub/1.0/actors/1/followers 2025-09-11T14:44:03.642Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub] Checking auto-categorization rules. 2025-09-11T14:44:03.648Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [notes/assert] 1 new note(s) found. 2025-09-11T14:44:03.757Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/notes.assert] Associating tid e5663ce5-d017-44e1-807f-2e5642c107fb with context https://www.lealternative.net/wp-json/activitypub/1.0/posts/63789/context 2025-09-11T14:44:03.779Z [4567/205061] - verbose: [activitypub/syncUserInboxes] Syncing tid e5663ce5-d017-44e1-807f-2e5642c107fb with 2 inboxes
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