A while back I bought two of those Maclocks with the intention of modding one into a tiny Mac.
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@billgoats @arroz the Plus is one of the most salvageable Macintoshes!
I would say it's worthwhile trying to recap the analogue board (logic board is fine) and then clean the inevitably gunky floppy drive
@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
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@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
@arroz @billgoats the only thing to remember is that it's perfectly safe if it's been left off for more than 24 hours.
Black and White CRTs are "safer" to work on, but there's still risks.
There are recap kits as well
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@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
@arroz @DosFox @billgoats I felt really nervous (scared really!) about working around CRTs until I watched this video by BranchusCreations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1DeMOl_nK4 I found it very informative and gave me plenty of confidence. Also, apart from the first few compact Macs, a bleed resistor is generally fitted so that the charge does drain away when the power is off even if you have not discharged it beforehand.
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@arroz @DosFox @billgoats I felt really nervous (scared really!) about working around CRTs until I watched this video by BranchusCreations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1DeMOl_nK4 I found it very informative and gave me plenty of confidence. Also, apart from the first few compact Macs, a bleed resistor is generally fitted so that the charge does drain away when the power is off even if you have not discharged it beforehand.
@fergycool @arroz @billgoats even in the first Macintosh there was a bleed resistor (R41)
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@fergycool @arroz @billgoats even in the first Macintosh there was a bleed resistor (R41)
@DosFox @arroz @billgoats Aha. I did not know that. I will remember.
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@DosFox @arroz @billgoats Aha. I did not know that. I will remember.
@fergycool or at the very least they should!
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@arroz @billgoats the only thing to remember is that it's perfectly safe if it's been left off for more than 24 hours.
Black and White CRTs are "safer" to work on, but there's still risks.
There are recap kits as well
@DosFox @arroz @billgoats I don’t have a Plus anymore, but did upgrade my SE/30 to a color LCD screen last year and it’s glorious. If Apple had shipped an all-in-one color Mac in 1989 for not a trillion dollars, I can’t even imagine what the uptake would have been.
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@DosFox @arroz @billgoats I don’t have a Plus anymore, but did upgrade my SE/30 to a color LCD screen last year and it’s glorious. If Apple had shipped an all-in-one color Mac in 1989 for not a trillion dollars, I can’t even imagine what the uptake would have been.
@chrisgervais I mean they did try it in '93 😅
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@DosFox @arroz @billgoats I don’t have a Plus anymore, but did upgrade my SE/30 to a color LCD screen last year and it’s glorious. If Apple had shipped an all-in-one color Mac in 1989 for not a trillion dollars, I can’t even imagine what the uptake would have been.
@chrisgervais @DosFox @billgoats How do you get the color?
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@chrisgervais I mean they did try it in '93 😅
@DosFox Yeah, but those Color Classics don’t hold a candle to the SE/30. I just wish Apple had led with color across the board instead of dragging B&W machines into the 90s for no reason other than margin.
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To make a Mac, I'm using a Pi Zero 2 W, a Waveshare 2.8" DPI LCD, and the MacintoshPi image which includes Basillisk II and SheepShaver already installed, and they work without X11 running, perfect for the thin-resourced Pi Zero.
https://jm.iq.pl/macintoshpi-mac-os-7-8-9-for-raspberry-pi/
One thing that was missing was AppleTalk support but I solved that by installing sheep_net from these instructions. And works over WiFi!
https://www.ecliptik.com/blog/2025/Live-Laugh-Localtalk-with-Basilisk-II/
@paulrickards That is pretty neat! I sold my collection of SE//30s due to space connstraints, but I totally have extra Raspberries and a 3D printer...
What are the chances of getting ADB hardware to run?
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@chrisgervais @DosFox @billgoats How do you get the color?
@arroz @DosFox @billgoats This is a SE/30-specific thing (due to it supporting Color QuickDraw) https://zigzagjoe.com/30Video.html
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@benpate @tess it's probably fair to pick a minimum number, although @aeva rightly pointed out that your motivation is going to flag if you never make any progress whatsoever.
So, regular review of security reports, bug triage, dependency and platform updates, that kind of thing are probably the minimum for "this software is not unmaintained".
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and tbh: yes it drives me crazy, if I see that the main maintainer of a project I use is not releasing new software, even they promised it, and prefer working on their new project. It drives me nuts, but it's their right to do.Hopefully there will be a bigger team at one point, so the complete project is not relying on one person (who did a great job so far).
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@tess I'm actually asking a real question about the craft.
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@aeva I don't think your interpretation of RFC 2119 SHOULD is correct. RFC 2119 SHOULD basically means "MUST, unless you have a really good reason."
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@alice I got mine before the move to AZ because I wasn't sure they'd even be available here.
Gladly there's pockets of actual humans here in this "red" state. (I think it's turning blue from what I hear. Well, it's more blue now with me here rofl)
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@aeva I think there's an interesting part of your answer. There's a minimum amount of time just to deal with dependency changes, triage bugs and hopefully fix some. But doing that minimum is probably not sustainable -- it probably means you're losing interest in the project. Having a little more time for new features, refactors, and so on is probably better for the long term.
