A while back I bought two of those Maclocks with the intention of modding one into a tiny Mac.
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@arroz I bought a ready built LCD with curved acrylic front from here
@paulrickards Nice! Is it easy to replace the LCD? I was thinking about 1024x768 to make it (double) pixel perfect.
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@paulrickards Nice! Is it easy to replace the LCD? I was thinking about 1024x768 to make it (double) pixel perfect.
@arroz It came as one unit and I’ve not explored separating the LCD from the acrylic front. Mine is an older one that has a weird resolution and fixed rotation. Looks like current models for sale are 1024x768 so you should be set there.
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@arroz It came as one unit and I’ve not explored separating the LCD from the acrylic front. Mine is an older one that has a weird resolution and fixed rotation. Looks like current models for sale are 1024x768 so you should be set there.
@paulrickards Perfect, thank you! All this assuming the board is still usable. Hope so!
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@paulrickards Perfect, thank you! All this assuming the board is still usable. Hope so!
@arroz If you’re using it with a real Mac, you need some way to get to HDMI for that LCD. I’m using a Pi in my case.
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@arroz If you’re using it with a real Mac, you need some way to get to HDMI for that LCD. I’m using a Pi in my case.
@paulrickards Yeah, there’s the RGB to HDMI hat that uses an RPI with a bare metal software that works on these Macs. I’ll get one of those as well.
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Mac and TinyMac.
@paulrickards COOL CRAB!!!!
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@paulrickards Hey, I’m about to start restoring the Mac Plus. I hate CRTs so I’m thinking about replacing it and the analog board by a new PSU and an LCD screen. How did you install an LCD on yours, specifically, how did you make the round glass mimicking the CRT?
@arroz @paulrickards I’ve got a pi & lcd mounted in the corpse of an SE/30. Ended up making a laser cutting template for a piece of black acrylic that lines up with the holes the CRT screws into. Nothing fancy or curved, so the illusion can be spoiled if you’re too close, but it’s generally not so bad. I can send over pics/model numbers/templores a bit later if you like.
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@arroz @paulrickards I’ve got a pi & lcd mounted in the corpse of an SE/30. Ended up making a laser cutting template for a piece of black acrylic that lines up with the holes the CRT screws into. Nothing fancy or curved, so the illusion can be spoiled if you’re too close, but it’s generally not so bad. I can send over pics/model numbers/templores a bit later if you like.
@billgoats @paulrickards Thanks! Let me open it first and see if the board has not been destroyed by leaky things, and then I’ll start deciding on what to do.
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@billgoats @paulrickards Thanks! Let me open it first and see if the board has not been destroyed by leaky things, and then I’ll start deciding on what to do.
@arroz Here you go, it’s the EJ080NA 8” 800x600 screen with an HDMI controller board, but you can get a VGA one too. I’ve been super happy with it. The black acrylic makes a pretty decent surround and screws into where the same holes as the CRT.
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@arroz Here you go, it’s the EJ080NA 8” 800x600 screen with an HDMI controller board, but you can get a VGA one too. I’ve been super happy with it. The black acrylic makes a pretty decent surround and screws into where the same holes as the CRT.
@arroz There’s no CRT-style bulge outwards, and if you stick your face right up to the case you can see down inside of it. So the illusion does a pretty good job even if it isn’t complete. And who knows, there may well be a creative solution you could come up with!
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@arroz There’s no CRT-style bulge outwards, and if you stick your face right up to the case you can see down inside of it. So the illusion does a pretty good job even if it isn’t complete. And who knows, there may well be a creative solution you could come up with!
@billgoats Thank you! Hope I can restore this Mac! 😁
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@billgoats Thank you! Hope I can restore this Mac! 😁
@arroz Oh, you'll definitely get there! @DosFox built a Plus clone from scratch, after all ;) https://tech.lgbt/@DosFox/112837949290317767
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@arroz Oh, you'll definitely get there! @DosFox built a Plus clone from scratch, after all ;) https://tech.lgbt/@DosFox/112837949290317767
@billgoats @arroz the Plus is one of the most salvageable Macintoshes!
I would say it's worthwhile trying to recap the analogue board (logic board is fine) and then clean the inevitably gunky floppy drive
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@billgoats @arroz the Plus is one of the most salvageable Macintoshes!
I would say it's worthwhile trying to recap the analogue board (logic board is fine) and then clean the inevitably gunky floppy drive
@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
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@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
@arroz @billgoats the only thing to remember is that it's perfectly safe if it's been left off for more than 24 hours.
Black and White CRTs are "safer" to work on, but there's still risks.
There are recap kits as well
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@DosFox @billgoats The floppy drive definitely needs cleaning, it’s jammed! The analog board and CRT are the things I’m not truly enthusiastic about. I don’t know enough to feel safe working on a CRT Mac (I don’t like CRT screens in general). I was thinking about replacing the whole thing with a modern PSU (there are some nice ones that supply +/-12 and 5V, I just need to make sure the current is enough, if you know the current requirements for each rail I would appreciate!) and the LCD.
@arroz @DosFox @billgoats I felt really nervous (scared really!) about working around CRTs until I watched this video by BranchusCreations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1DeMOl_nK4 I found it very informative and gave me plenty of confidence. Also, apart from the first few compact Macs, a bleed resistor is generally fitted so that the charge does drain away when the power is off even if you have not discharged it beforehand.
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@arroz @DosFox @billgoats I felt really nervous (scared really!) about working around CRTs until I watched this video by BranchusCreations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1DeMOl_nK4 I found it very informative and gave me plenty of confidence. Also, apart from the first few compact Macs, a bleed resistor is generally fitted so that the charge does drain away when the power is off even if you have not discharged it beforehand.
@fergycool @arroz @billgoats even in the first Macintosh there was a bleed resistor (R41)
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@fergycool @arroz @billgoats even in the first Macintosh there was a bleed resistor (R41)
@DosFox @arroz @billgoats Aha. I did not know that. I will remember.
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@DosFox @arroz @billgoats Aha. I did not know that. I will remember.
@fergycool or at the very least they should!
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@arroz @billgoats the only thing to remember is that it's perfectly safe if it's been left off for more than 24 hours.
Black and White CRTs are "safer" to work on, but there's still risks.
There are recap kits as well
@DosFox @arroz @billgoats I don’t have a Plus anymore, but did upgrade my SE/30 to a color LCD screen last year and it’s glorious. If Apple had shipped an all-in-one color Mac in 1989 for not a trillion dollars, I can’t even imagine what the uptake would have been.
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