@vkc And if it's public, it's not handled with care.
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I think users should be prompted when blocking someone a "hey wana send the block to the other server" and even a "wana send the block to all your followers to make this block public?" (this one would bee a stopgap solution to reply control but… why do a stopgap solution when GTS has started with proper reply control?)
#wafrn-still-doesnt-send-bsky-blocks-to-bsky-itself #and-given-this-post-of-you #it-will-have-the-warning-before-making-it-go-to-bsky -
@vkc aa they make the blocking list public it is worse than trusting or not bluesky owners, as everyone can read such list. Anyone, even not owning their server, can do "dangerous lists" of people according to the things you mention.
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@vkc I said ages ago that it was going to lead to "follow policing, 2.0" and in some of the circles I used to be in, kt very much did.
I don't know what bsky were smoking when they came up with that. -
@vkc @YKantRachelRead the bluesky leadership straight up said they want to normalize the destruction of privacy
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I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.
And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. <3
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@vkc It's the "is metadata data" question. https://ssd.eff.org/module/why-metadata-matters
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I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.
And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. <3
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I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.
And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. <3
@vkc To me the biggest problem is that who blocks who should never be public. That's like making your private messages public. Who blocks who is personal and private and people block people for all kinds of reasons. It's one thing to publicize your fediblock list or something but... Unless I'm misunderstanding what blocklist we're talking about.
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@vkc To me the biggest problem is that who blocks who should never be public. That's like making your private messages public. Who blocks who is personal and private and people block people for all kinds of reasons. It's one thing to publicize your fediblock list or something but... Unless I'm misunderstanding what blocklist we're talking about.
@draeand Yes, *choosing* to share something is always a different matter from not being able to not share it.
There's that pesky "consent" thing again… 🙂
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I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.
And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. <3
@vkc I totally agree. I'm trying to be extra nice to the n00bs. If we want them to feel happy and welcome, then we need to do things that make them feel happy and welcome.
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I'm not going to talk about Bluesky anymore for a bit, but I know folks are coming back here after hanging out there for a while, and I want to encourage Fedi users not to gloat, not to be jerks about it.
And if you're just (re)joining us on Fedi, like all affinity groups, you're going to run into enthusiasts who are gloating, but I promise most of us are just happy you're here and want to help make this place awesome for you. <3
@vkc well, if they smell funny I might say something. I reserve that right. 🤣
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I already had my doubts but when ICE was accepted, I left immediately!
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@vkc This is honestly why I prefer fedi tech that lets me "bin" people on the receiving side, such as Friendica. Everyone i choose to goes into buckets that I can choose to view (or avoid) as I see fit, with labels that only make sense to me. Even if you get at my meta data, it's not easily clear why some fedi profiles are in the bucket "Orthopedic" and some are in "Birb Feeder" or "WhatPlantsCrave" and so on and so on. I've blocked you but you'll never know it, screaming into one of the voids.
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@vkc And if it's public, it's not handled with care.
It's not.
What you post to your PDS is public. The updates to it go to the "firehose", which is this public stream of updates. App views then take that information and filter it and crap. There's some other stuff going on here but this is pretty much it.
So your block list is a request to these views to not show your public posts to certain people.
If you are expecting more than that you are quite mistaken.
Don't put sensitive info on social media.
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@vkc As a European I would 'wear' such public blocks as a badge of honour, but I am not on bluesky.
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@vkc When you say “do I trust” I’m pretty sure they’re public; they’re aggregated on https://clearsky.app/.
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It's not.
What you post to your PDS is public. The updates to it go to the "firehose", which is this public stream of updates. App views then take that information and filter it and crap. There's some other stuff going on here but this is pretty much it.
So your block list is a request to these views to not show your public posts to certain people.
If you are expecting more than that you are quite mistaken.
Don't put sensitive info on social media.
@crazyeddie @vkc Even a block list can tell a lot. It's not just about what you don't want others to see, but also what you don't want to see yourself.
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