Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
-
-
"scammers often pressure victims into disabling security measures"
gee Google, i wonder where they might find malware that would bypass those "security measures" without any pressure at all??? oh well not fucking important i guess.
Where indeed š¤

-
@argv_minus_one There probably are a lot of possibilities there. I'd definitely be interested to see how RISC-V pans out.
ARM is very weak per cycle compared to most other processor techs. I can't say where RISC-V is though. (After all, ARM basically is a form of RISC...) So it's not impossible a 2GHz processor could perform very favorably compared to ARM. Or not. It really depends... I don't have enough info on RISC-V to say one way or the other.
(Bear in mind that benchmarks are shockingly artificial and basically let processors cheat a lot.)
Well, I've observed some rather insane real-world single-thread performance from an Apple M1 in a MacBook. It runs circles around my desktop!
The M1 is about 5 years newer than my desktop, granted, but my desktop is a desktop! With a kilowatt power supply and a hefty CPU cooler and everything! (It was previously used for high-intensity gaming.)
-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote is it necessary a dragon blood and sirens tears?
-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote What if I don't ever connect my Android phone to a Google account in the first place?
-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote or alternatively:
- sidestep this whole mess and install APKs through adb install
if they want to call installing apps sideloading, then we'll do sideloading for real.
-
@grote or alternatively:
- sidestep this whole mess and install APKs through adb install
if they want to call installing apps sideloading, then we'll do sideloading for real.
@millihertz for all apps you will ever want from F-Droid? And their updates?
-
@millihertz for all apps you will ever want from F-Droid? And their updates?
@grote yeah, if that's what it takes
-
@grote yeah, if that's what it takes
@grote i'm guessing it'll take the F-Droid website about two seconds to figure out how to have Chrome automate the process
-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote just wait until they download and inspect, validate, do a security check on, and....
run a jar?
-
@grote i'm guessing it'll take the F-Droid website about two seconds to figure out how to have Chrome automate the process
@grote it sucks, but fuck google
-
Well, I've observed some rather insane real-world single-thread performance from an Apple M1 in a MacBook. It runs circles around my desktop!
The M1 is about 5 years newer than my desktop, granted, but my desktop is a desktop! With a kilowatt power supply and a hefty CPU cooler and everything! (It was previously used for high-intensity gaming.)
@argv_minus_one Are you talking benchmarks or specific usages? In benchmarks they'll probably always look to come out ahead because they have a LOT of accelerators. Real life usage is much much trickier and really depends on what you're doing. For example, ARM may have some advantages in, say, encoding if the encoder can take advantage of all those accelerators and if it's allowed to still use lots of watts (just less than the desktop presumably) with good heat dissipation.
But in something where accelerators start being tricky to use like, say, emulation or a game, ARM starts falling behind. Often way behind.
The thing about x86/64 is it's very good at general usage.
(I got curious and looked up a benchmark btw. The latest M5 seems to barely claim better SC benches than my CPU)
-
@grote it sucks, but fuck google
@grote (sorry, did you think i was coming at this from an "i can see what google is trying to do here" angle?
.....nnnnnnnnope
-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote
This was already hard enough before for most users. The best route will be staying off Google services with a custom rom. -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote Wow that is so hard.
I can feel the issue of avoiding people being tricked but with them I have some doubts.
Also why do I need to use biometrics? -
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote According to the image, you can use a PIN instead of biometrics. Nearly gave me a heart attack when I read "confirm with biometrics" in the text.
-
@old_angry_queer @terminaltilt @grote the screenshot literally says "or device PIN"
@valpackett @old_angry_queer @grote
You're right. I totally missed that.
-
@FifiSch @grote I don't really understand that. The instructions are so simple and detailed and the "new OS" is basically exactly the same thing right down to having the same basic startup configuration and etc. The only difference is the Google connections are optional and one can decide for themselves how far they want to go.
It's pretty much just tapping a few things, then copying and pasting two lines or so. Once it's booted you wouldn't tell it apart from stock other than its cleanliness. It's easier than installing Linux on a PC and that's actually a lot easier and less scary than people have been convinced.
I bet if people didn't let Google, Apple, and etc convince them that they are so scared of installing third party options we never would have reached this point.
@nazokiyoubinbou @FifiSch @grote Unfortunately, you cannot do complete backups of android devices if you are not rooted. You may have a phone in use currently, which you didn't have the foresight to bootloader unlock and root when you initially got it, and thus installing any custom ROM is not very interesting as you would loose a large part of your data. The part of the data that you would lose is unknown as app/phone backups are opaque, and might also result in losing access to some messaging applications if not done carefully. In the best case, you would have a second phone from which to transfer data from, as a reference (and for messaging apps that can transfer accounts between devices).
At least, that's how I see it. The process itself is easy, but the steps before and after are much more scary.In all, I do agree with your initial premise that LineageOS and other custom ROMs will become more popular for those that have android headsets that have unlockable bootloaders and have the initial knowhow.
We do seriously need more alternatives to Android and iOS, such as postmarketOS, as the current state of things is getting very dire. Unfortunately, the hardware itself is not very standardised and manufacturers want to keep control to squeeze a few more cents from each device⦠-
Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote Google can FUCK right off. NO ONE should have to do ANY of this.
-