Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

[eldaking@weirder.earth]

@grote I'm very thankful to google for covering the incredibly common case where I'm forced at gunpoint to install a malicious apk. Now such attacks will require attackers to kidnap me for a couple of days, which severely limits their options.

We can finally break the cycle of coercion where after being scammed into installing an apk, I started scamming people into installing apks.

[jake4480@c.im]

@grote it will REQUIRE biometrics? See, @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 this is what I mean. Whole world wants to put biometrics in everything. It's nonsense

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
That won't work.

[judeswae@toot.thoughtworks.com]

@grote I guess I'd be fine with the rest, but wait one day... geez, are you kidding me?

[alextecplayz@techhub.social]

@ziclaud depends on the device. My Redmi Note 11 took two attempts before I could finally unlock the bootloader, I had to wait 2 weeks because I clicked twice on the Mi Unlock tool.

You need a Xiaomi account, insert a SIM card into your phone, use that phone number for the Xiaomi account, then you can start the verification process. It's horrible, but it can be done.

[frxe@friendsocial.inet.place]

I thought this was a joke

[eldaking@weirder.earth]

@grote "In these scenarios, scammers exploit fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to create a sense of extreme urgency."

In these scenarios, Google exploits fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to justify taking control over your phone.

"According to a 2025 report from the Global Anti-Scam Alliance (GASA), 57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion."

We don't have any data on harm being caused specifically by sideloading apps, so here is some completely unrelated data that is very worrying.

[luatic@mastodon.social]

@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.

why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?

[alexmorse@mastodon.social]

@grote this really amps up linux phones. android was already a pain in the ass, what's the point of using it with all that? Might as well get the cheap apple phones

[nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social]

@confusomu @FifiSch @grote Honestly just feels like a whole lot of "I don't want to, it sounds hard." Which is just what all these posts feel like.

If you don't divest from Google, it stores backups in your account — the "cloud" if you will. If you do want to divest from Google, you can set it up to use the internal backup function that's in like 9 or so on up to backup to a flash drive or whatever, which it can import during initial configuration when you first boot up.

But really there is a lot less to lose in most apps than one might think. It's usually so little trouble to redo things I typically don't bother even though I have root and backups. There are benefits even to starting clean.

People want to be scared of the process.

As always, one can ask someone to help!

[kevinrns@mstdn.social]

@raymaccarthy @utf_7 @grote

I found a credit union in one quick search that allows at least some browser access ...

This is a fight, find allies. Credit unions are better than banks, many much better.

[jernej@androiddev.social]

@grote you're going to disable this in your custom builds anyway, right? :)

[glyzberj@silverbay.space]

@grote How to replace the firmware with something else?

[onterof@sueden.social]

@grote Does this also apply for using adb directly? Sideloading is already a pain since the introduction of xapks

[gimulnautti@mastodon.green]

@grote And watch this path become unmaintained and not working within 6 months.

[fistfulofdave@mastodon.social]

@jake4480 @grote @wendigo @gavin57 well I only have a Google account to see my kids school stuff, it’s getting deleted after that. No Google anything for me, groan YouTube as little as possible. That being said I can’t side load anything on an iPhone. Well without jailbreaking it.

[msmissing@waf.moe]

maybe Google just doesn’t like developing android anymore and want an excuse to stop having to update it (no more userbase)

#google #android #android-sideloading

[faduda@mastodon.ie]

@LexYeen @grote

But all they've done is make it sound cool.

[umbreon@donphan.social]

@LexYeen @grote Should call installing app store apps "Backloading" for how much these companies fuck their customers *and* developers

[reallylazybear@mastodon.social]

@StellaFoxxie @monapp @grote I was able to do it 10 years ago by just reading and thinking. I was only 13 at the time. Maybe today it's hard now, idk. I haven't dabbled with custom ROMs these past few years...

But one thing I do know is that the custom ROM dev's not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or me getting fired because the alarm app failed and that they'll laugh at me if I point my finger at them for messing up my device, lol.