Anyway I watched the mmalex and anton mikhailov talk, which was good.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

Anyway I watched the mmalex and anton mikhailov talk, which was good. But then out of curiosity i opened anton's twitter, and he's retweeting a qanon guy doing a pronoun dunk. well i can't say im surprised by the handmade crowd continuing to be pretty shit, but it is sad.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

i do hope that most of this stuff falls into "i didn't fucking open my eyes and read the thing i retweeted", but, that is also sad.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

Outrage farmers riding on nonsense is, i guess, not new. basically, take new / silly thing, and then dramatize it out the wazoo. so like, a piece of software doing a bit of that software in rust, which affects the build and which has zero user-facing changes, becomes "Rust is going to become MANDATORY (this email comes from a guy with pronouns in their bio)". Then some sanctimonious shitstain turns this into "Another reason to stay away from Git" plus ultra generic "its bad to force things".

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

Then tech people love to debate minute of wildly unimportant technical decisions, so everyone wants to weigh in on whether it's bad or not to use rust to do programming, and so shitstain #1 now has his pronouns bullshit spread widely by people who (hopefully) don't understand the broader context of what they're sharing. Despite 1) the thing they're arguing about never actually happened, and 2) they're collectively turning a blind eye to the shit they're tracking into the house.

[bas@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dotstdy What's the handmade crowd?

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

it's at least funny in this case because if you have any fucking idea what you're talking about you know that git has traditionally been a huge mess of different programming languages. including python, perl, tcl, bash. it even has js in there if you include git-web.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

@bas the handmade community is a programming group that very loosely centers around casey muratori. started when he did the handmade hero and handmade con stuff I think, and then continued from there. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEMXAbCVnmY6HE0bxUHeLLP5QbBE2zhJi you might have seen some talks from https://bettersoftwareconference.com/ which is pretty much the same group.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

@bas there's lots of good stuff in those talks, if you haven't seen them. but yeah, the community itself is... questionable. a not small cohort of the group has a thought process that goes like, "software used to be good" -> "software now bad" -> "what's different??" -> "ah there are more than three women in the entire industry now" -> "must be reverse sexism that's causing all the problems with software"

[dominikg@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dotstdy
That brings up an interesting question:
Should you use the software written by people that publicly espouse toxic / extremist views?

You might not want to pay for such software, but what about using open source or free software?

Where would you draw the line?

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

@dominikg I typically try to avoid it, but like any purity style thing, trying to be binary about it doesn't really work. like there's no situation where i'm going to wake up tomorrow and suddenly decide to use hyprland. but i mean, i have a facebook account, hell, i have ghidra installed. so everyone's gotta draw their own lines. for some people i think they'd prefer to entirely ignore this aspect and just "focus on the tech". that's the part i take issue with more than anything.

[dominikg@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dotstdy
I find it incredibly cool that git was originally a set of shell scripts written in different languages that worked together.