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@Gina Well Gitlab took money from Y Combinator and other venture capitalists and Forgejo is part of Codeberg, so I think you have you answer there.
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@Gina Ooft - tough one! Every govt agency I've worked for has a lot of experience with their own, already self hosted GitLab instances. The GitLab runner configurations, and GitLab components (pipelines) are marvellous. Enterprise edition has great integration with SSO, allow you to configure rights and permissions based on group membership. Besides that I think there's the matter of support.
But, speaking from ideology and license perspective; Forgejo without a doubt.
@jbouter that's exactly our dilemma. From a functionality perspective, GitLab (enterprise edition) has more build and admin features. And lots of orgs already use it. But from a digital sovereignty and cost perspective, Forgejo is the clear winner.
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@Gina Well Gitlab took money from Y Combinator and other venture capitalists and Forgejo is part of Codeberg, so I think you have you answer there.
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Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina Have been running a self-hosted gitlab for ten years with gitlab-ci recently and all upgrades have worked flawlessly with little downtime so I'd say use Forgejo because gitlab has had its day now.
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@jbouter that's exactly our dilemma. From a functionality perspective, GitLab (enterprise edition) has more build and admin features. And lots of orgs already use it. But from a digital sovereignty and cost perspective, Forgejo is the clear winner.
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@Gina Have been running a self-hosted gitlab for ten years with gitlab-ci recently and all upgrades have worked flawlessly with little downtime so I'd say use Forgejo because gitlab has had its day now.
@geospacedman are you saying GitLab works really well so you should go with Forgejo? 😅
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📣 Opinions are welcome 📣
Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina would registration be open to everyone?
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@Gina would registration be open to everyone?
@mario nope would be tied to our gov sso (although guest access should be possible).
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@Gina but that would mean no public contributions possible :(
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@Gina but that would mean no public contributions possible :(
@mario sorry that was too quickly answered. Long answer; we're still looking at how to give external users access. I'm hopeful that Forgejo/Codeberg will develop federation soon, that could be an answer.
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📣 Opinions are welcome 📣
Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina I always suggest to do proper requirements management. List what you need and see which solution matches best.
I've been running a private Gitlab instance for several years and have no complaints. Depending on the license it can get expensive but chances are if you need that you may have to pay for getting similar features implemented in Forgejo as well.
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@Gina I always suggest to do proper requirements management. List what you need and see which solution matches best.
I've been running a private Gitlab instance for several years and have no complaints. Depending on the license it can get expensive but chances are if you need that you may have to pay for getting similar features implemented in Forgejo as well.
@fedops this. Although I'm more a fan of contributing to a project than just paying for a license.
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📣 Opinions are welcome 📣
Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina GitLab being an American company, I guess that rules it out for digital sovereignty.
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📣 Opinions are welcome 📣
Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina I want exactly this for scientific code!! Maybe at eu level, with a nice url like code.science.eu
Don't want to rely so much on GitHub anymore
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@Gina GitLab being an American company, I guess that rules it out for digital sovereignty.
@xiu that was my argument as well. The threat when self-hosting is no more updates.
(In case it isn't clear I'm strongly pro Forgejo, but as GitLab is already popular with our gov orgs it needs to be considered - which I'm aware also isn't the best argument)
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@Gina I want exactly this for scientific code!! Maybe at eu level, with a nice url like code.science.eu
Don't want to rely so much on GitHub anymore
@erikjan yeah I could imagine an EU federation of code platforms at some point 🔥
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📣 Opinions are welcome 📣
Imagine we set up a national codeplatform to replace GitHub. Aka a self-hosted platform where all Dutch gov workers can store, collaborate and build gov code, with as many features as possible (also on the admin side) and respecting digital sovereignty.
Would you want it to be... (comments are welcome!)
@Gina a big institution,like a nation, as a user could push the development and fixing of the platform at an important level
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@Gina a big institution,like a nation, as a user could push the development and fixing of the platform at an important level
@owlcode absolutely, and finance (think of what GitLab EE licenses cost)
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La persona di #Kagame e lo stile politico ad esso associato è troppo complesso per una valutazione unidimensionale. La sua azione per unire il paese profondamente traumatizzato e distrutto e per garantire la sopravvivenza della popolazione è in ogni caso insolita.
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@flaviotorba prova a chiedere a @mau o a @maddmaths 😅
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La scienza deve decentralizzare. Il post di Rory Mir per @eff in occasione della #OpenAccessWeek
La produzione di conoscenza non avviene nel vuoto. Ogni grande scoperta scientifica si basa su lavori precedenti e su uno scambio continuo con i colleghi del settore. Ecco perché dobbiamo affrontare la minaccia che i principali editori e piattaforme possano influenzare in modo improprio le modalità di accesso alla conoscenza scientifica, o addirittura sopprimerla.
Quando l'infrastruttura è troppo centralizzata, i gatekeeper acquisiscono nuovi poteri per catturare, manipolare e censurare. Il risultato è un sistema che diventa meno utile, meno stabile e con maggiori costi di accesso. La scienza prospera grazie alla condivisione e all'equità di accesso, e il suo futuro dipende da una rivolta globale e democratica contro le piattaforme centralizzate predatorie.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/science-must-decentralize
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@matematica
Ciao, sapreste indicarmi risorse per evitare la classica lezione frontale? Insegno in un istituto tecnico... Grazie!
