@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oh good, I was missing deflection and projection from the note, thanks.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
right, because i'm calling you names. not like you're calling me names because you don't like what i'm telling you. of course. got it
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
right, because i'm calling you names. not like you're calling me names because you don't like what i'm telling you. of course. got it
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
again, if you don't like the implications of what you say, that's not my problem, and pointing that out is not name calling.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
again, if you don't like the implications of what you say, that's not my problem, and pointing that out is not name calling.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov: whatever you need to cope in this world, go for it. we all have frustrations. if you need to think i'm terrible things because you reject what i say about the topic, that has nothing to do with your smears, do what you have to do. i understand it's difficult for you
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov: whatever you need to cope in this world, go for it. we all have frustrations. if you need to think i'm terrible things because you reject what i say about the topic, that has nothing to do with your smears, do what you have to do. i understand it's difficult for you
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
LOL
Nice try, but again, projecting won't help.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
LOL
Nice try, but again, projecting won't help.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
do you understand what projection is?
good god man
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
do you understand what projection is?
good god man
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
Better than you, apparently.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
Better than you, apparently.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
and we've arrived at the deeply intellectual and emotionally mature "no, u" "no, u" "no, u" stage of the farce thread
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
and we've arrived at the deeply intellectual and emotionally mature "no, u" "no, u" "no, u" stage of the farce thread
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
mostly I'm noticing that you seem to be in a pissing contest with trying to drop the last word in, because I can't explain to myself why you keep responding when you have nothing more of relevant to say.
(Cue useless response in 3ย โฆ 2ย โฆ 1)
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
mostly I'm noticing that you seem to be in a pissing contest with trying to drop the last word in, because I can't explain to myself why you keep responding when you have nothing more of relevant to say.
(Cue useless response in 3ย โฆ 2ย โฆ 1)
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
useless response:
oblomov, something like 20 comments ago i stopped taking anything here seriously and decided to just have some fun with two don quixote type characters tilting at windmills who don't even understand open source is
and i sincerely thank you for the entertainment
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
useless response:
oblomov, something like 20 comments ago i stopped taking anything here seriously and decided to just have some fun with two don quixote type characters tilting at windmills who don't even understand open source is
and i sincerely thank you for the entertainment
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
Theeere you go. I'm glad you're happy.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
Theeere you go. I'm glad you're happy.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
i am
are you enjoying interacting with a projecting, libertarian moron, google goon, immoral drunk driver defender?
what else you got for me
๐ฟ
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
i am
are you enjoying interacting with a projecting, libertarian moron, google goon, immoral drunk driver defender?
what else you got for me
๐ฟ
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
I'm procrastinating doing a boring task.
You should probably purge the reply list because I doubt anyone else is interested in the banter.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
I'm procrastinating doing a boring task.
You should probably purge the reply list because I doubt anyone else is interested in the banter.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov you've sent me a number of links. i haven't clicked a single one of them
the purpose of a shitposting thread is the interaction, not academic citations
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov you've sent me a number of links. i haven't clicked a single one of them
the purpose of a shitposting thread is the interaction, not academic citations
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
ahhh. mmm. wow. yes. ahhh
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
ahhh. mmm. wow. yes. ahhh
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub
read the second paragraph ^^^
"removing it didn't bring any better features" is just a straight up lie
you insist mastodon abandoned ostatus because cackling moustache twirling evil
when all they did was implement new features
alexandre you're losing credibility
mastodon implemented AP, which brought new features
then it worked with both protocols for a while, and benefited from the interop
then it removed OStatus, which was a jerk move that didn't bring any features whatsoever
CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net
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mastodon implemented AP, which brought new features
then it worked with both protocols for a while, and benefited from the interop
then it removed OStatus, which was a jerk move that didn't bring any features whatsoever
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how do you implement a new protocol with new features, and it also supports an old protocol without those features
you don't. not because of vast unfathomable evil. but because it is just practically impossible
come on man
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
how do you implement a new protocol with new features, and it also supports an old protocol without those features
you don't. not because of vast unfathomable evil. but because it is just practically impossible
come on man
it's so impossible that it happened. go figure!
mastodon had a full implementation of AP in release 1.6. then it dropped OStatus in release 3.0.
and it's not even the only case of multi protocol support. friendica and hubzilla implement multiple different protocols. so does dovecot (imap, pop, and more). oh, look, browsers also support multiple protocols: http, https, ftp, ... Emacs ange-ftp supports all of these plus ssh and rsync and more. http servers typically support multiple versions of http, and openssh has supported multiple versions of the ssh protocol.
they don't go about making up problems that don't exist, and inventing impossibilities that aren't there.
it takes a lot of wrong assumptions to conclude it can't be done to defend the indefensible.
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it's so impossible that it happened. go figure!
mastodon had a full implementation of AP in release 1.6. then it dropped OStatus in release 3.0.
and it's not even the only case of multi protocol support. friendica and hubzilla implement multiple different protocols. so does dovecot (imap, pop, and more). oh, look, browsers also support multiple protocols: http, https, ftp, ... Emacs ange-ftp supports all of these plus ssh and rsync and more. http servers typically support multiple versions of http, and openssh has supported multiple versions of the ssh protocol.
they don't go about making up problems that don't exist, and inventing impossibilities that aren't there.
it takes a lot of wrong assumptions to conclude it can't be done to defend the indefensible.
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alexandre:
activitypub does restricted-audience messages
ostatus does public, broadcast-style messages
you can't use ostatus with mastodon
it's simply impossible
you've lost credibility on this topic in my eyes
you just seem to be arguing stubbornly rather than admitting fault when you must to be considered seriously
it's perfectly fine to admit fault
i screw up all the time
and then i admit it
you can too