I've seen an ongoing debate between "Note" versus "Article" in ActivityPub / ActivityStreams.
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Btw, I am sorry as I should've added "tangential" to the above, but was out of chars. I borrowed your post to continue my argument made elsewhere.
Adding an analogy that popped up as a showerthought just now, to clarify further what I refer to..
In a different context someone who creates a Webshop webapp might ask:
> When is something a "Product" or "Invoice" in HTTP / HTML?
It is not fully equivalent, but demonstrative of how the concepts clash, mixing solution space with protocol vocabulary in language use.
Yet this is what happens continuously in all fediverse developer talk, sowing endless confusion, but also leads to complete different, incompatible views and expectations on what fediverse is, and where it is headed.
We have a laissez-faire fediverse. Handy, as you can just hack things in. But also directionless and random.
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@reiver I don't think there really are any articles in the #fediverse. There are links, but the texts themselves are read through URIs.
Edit: Happy to be corrected! I've yet to implement ActivityPub into my new blog, but hopefully will be able to put articles out there when I get around to it.
@khleedril@cyberplace.social there absolutely are!
Any NodeBB topic over 500 characters is an article with a title, and federates out as the
Articletype.Mastodon gets a sub-500 character summary, and displays that.
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Some of that is more about Mastodon, than the Fediverse.
Mastodon doesn't give you the text of an Article, but instead gives you a link to it.
But, at this machine-level (in the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams data), the content is there for both Notes and Articles.
Mastodon just treats them differently.
@reiver@mastodon.social Mastodon can, and that's what the long form text FEP enables.
If you set a summary, Mastodon will faithfully show it, even for Article types.
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@reiver@mastodon.social Mastodon can, and that's what the long form text FEP enables.
If you set a summary, Mastodon will faithfully show it, even for Article types.
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@khleedril@cyberplace.social there absolutely are!
Any NodeBB topic over 500 characters is an article with a title, and federates out as the Article type.
Mastodon gets a sub-500 character summary, and displays that.
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Btw, I am sorry as I should've added "tangential" to the above, but was out of chars. I borrowed your post to continue my argument made elsewhere.
Adding an analogy that popped up as a showerthought just now, to clarify further what I refer to..
In a different context someone who creates a Webshop webapp might ask:
> When is something a "Product" or "Invoice" in HTTP / HTML?
It is not fully equivalent, but demonstrative of how the concepts clash, mixing solution space with protocol vocabulary in language use.
Yet this is what happens continuously in all fediverse developer talk, sowing endless confusion, but also leads to complete different, incompatible views and expectations on what fediverse is, and where it is headed.
We have a laissez-faire fediverse. Handy, as you can just hack things in. But also directionless and random.
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@khleedril @reiver try using akkoma https://fe.disroot.org is a good instance, and follow some blogs
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(sempre per via di quel casino che avevo combinato con l'istanza)
ho migrato il mio account #NeoDB da eggplant.place a neodb.social
#neodb sarebbe un servizio del #fediverso per tracciare film/libri/serie tv/altro
che si è visto o si vuole vedere.
Non è ancora tradotto benissimo, è pieno di tasti e scritte in cinese.
Simpatico che mi ha fatto esportare lo storicomi piace la dashboard che ne viene fuori
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Some of that is more about Mastodon, than the Fediverse.
Mastodon doesn't give you the text of an Article, but instead gives you a link to it.
But, at this machine-level (in the ActivityPub / ActivityStreams data), the content is there for both Notes and Articles.
Mastodon just treats them differently.
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@khleedril @reiver that's not true at all. Every post from @writefreely and @WordPress (with federation turned on) federates the whole post. It's just that mastodon doesn't render the post it self but most other fediverse servers do.
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@reiver I don't think there really are any articles in the #fediverse. There are links, but the texts themselves are read through URIs.
Edit: Happy to be corrected! I've yet to implement ActivityPub into my new blog, but hopefully will be able to put articles out there when I get around to it.
