as a French myself, i agree

[cmconseils@mastodon.social]

as a French myself, i agree

[josh0@babka.social]

@cmconseils out of a maximum of 100, I am four twenties mad about this.

[sobex@social.sciences.re]

@cmconseils Except that French has rules, and Oiseaux follows them. Unlike English lack of rules on how stuff are pronounced :p

You can learn how to read most french words using those rules.

[wandrecanada@mastodon.social]

@cmconseils It's true but to be totally fair the x is the plural form so it should be one less letter.

Then again both forms are pronounced the same...

So touche I guess

[wilpercy@beige.party]

@cmconseils reminds me of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

[eetschrijver@mastodon.social]

@cmconseils Kwa?

[webhat@infosec.exchange]

@Sobex @cmconseils I can't find it just now, and the was as image meme going about with two books, a very thick book on the left and a thin book on the right. Under the left book it said "book written in French", under the right book it said something like "same book in French, with all the unpronounced letters removed"

[revndm@queer.cool]

@cmconseils @josh I was just thinking of this earlier today, and it’s so true 🤣

[spacemagick@mastodon.social]

@cmconseils
English is worse. There must be hundreds of English words that a non-native speaker simply would have no idea how to pronounce based on the 26 'usual' sounds of the letters. English has 40+ phonemes hence many are made by combinations of two or more letters, BUT, in a totally inconsistent way. Some duplicate sounds, some combinations make different sounds depending on context. AND, on top of all that, we have endless occurrences of pointless 'silent' letters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRjlrv7lwAo

[gezza@mastodon.ie]

@spacemagick @cmconseils

Agreed. Anyone who can explain why worst-er sauce is spelt with so many extra letters gets a medal.

[davide_sandini@mastodon.uno]

@cmconseils
J'etude francais, pronounciation est tres interessant, ma l'use du accents, ce-meme est compliquee,

[danielswann@mastodon.social]

@gezza @spacemagick @cmconseils part of the reason that English is such a weird language is because the French forced their language on us for centuries. It is never not their fault.

[spacemagick@mastodon.social]

@gezza @cmconseils
Ah, now we're straying into the world of English proper nouns (as per that Dave Gorman clip). That's a whole other level of bizarreness beyond 'normal' #English !

[nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social]

@cmconseils English: hold ma' beer!

[spacemagick@mastodon.social]

@danielswann @gezza @cmconseils
I wasn't going to mention that LOL

[solarkater@mastodon.social]

@cmconseils
and in the jungle of Costa Rica the French group asks people coming down the hill if they know where the famous Quetzal bird is . in French bien entendu
and at the end of the world in Northern Argentina some people in their fifties (in Salta: google for James Turrell f.e.) in the line in front of me complain that the screen of arrivals /departures at the airport is only in Spanish and Englis - and not in French: manque de formation selon selon eux. c'était y'a dix ans.
incroyable...

[plantagolabs@mastodon.social]

@Sobex @cmconseils The way French is said to have rules is to have a rule for each exception. I remember a flowchart on if a past participle needs the plural, going 5 steps deep, and at the end there are boxes with "these verbes not because convoluted reason". Also, the becherelle is a book for a reason....

[wmd@chaos.social]

@cmconseils no worse then english...

[sobex@social.sciences.re]

@plantagolabs @cmconseils At this point I'm curious to see that flowchart and the edge cases I do not remember at all.

But this is talking grammar and conjugation (which other romance language have too, and what was contended was French reading (in which grammar and conjugation play little part).

[missqarnstein@eldritch.cafe]

@cmconseils my favorite french word