On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected.
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@fesshole If you don't know the answer, how do you know it's the wrong answer?
This is, of course, a version of the "a stopped clock is right twice a day" problem.
@juliaclement @fesshole it's something she tried and didn't work, so it's surely wrong
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@chronovore @fesshole the same happened with mathoverflow. It wasn't like this when it started but at some point in the last decade it changed.
@jesusmargar @chronovore @fesshole Tends to remind me of walking and dog. They just GOTTA PEE right here because someone else was here and their stink needs to reign supreme. That's really what's going on. Sad apes beating their chest trying to mark territory where they feel powerful.
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole Not a woman but often incapable of eliciting a response to my basic Linux questions. Maybe I should try your method!
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole *meme modern problem require modern solution*
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@fesshole If you don't know the answer, how do you know it's the wrong answer?
This is, of course, a version of the "a stopped clock is right twice a day" problem.
@juliaclement @fesshole she probably posts about something she already tried. Something that sounds feasible (hence answer) but didn't actually work (hence wrong).
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@chronovore @fesshole that's what drives me crazy about SO
At its start it was really helpful. But then the site gradually became less about Q&A and more about going for points and e-peen measuring. Way too many questions end up "why are you doing that" or having the highest voted answer being flagrantly wrong
Still it's nominally better than the before times where searching a question turned up forum threads with no answer, elitist flaming, "fixed it" or paywalled Experts Exchange links.
@beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole I always hated finding someone with the exact problem I had, on the exact components, running the exact programs. Then after reading 83 responses they post again “never mind, fixed it” archived from 2 years before.
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@clickhere
Taps the "Dunning-Kruger effect is an error of statistical analysis" sign.
https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2022/04/08/the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-autocorrelation/
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole actual lol - it’s so true
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@beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole I always hated finding someone with the exact problem I had, on the exact components, running the exact programs. Then after reading 83 responses they post again “never mind, fixed it” archived from 2 years before.
@passwordsarehard4 @chronovore @fesshole I wish I could reach through the internet, grab them by the shoulders and just tell "HOW?!??!? WHY DIDN'T YOU POST HOW?!?!"
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole I've already read that, and reading it twice in a short time doesn't make me suspicious. Because I've contacted "experts" before, and I've received mixed reactions, I mean extreme.
There are very nice and helpful people, and the worst kind of sociopaths, both sitting at the same top level table.
Anyone can see that emerging from the wars running inside projects.
There's no such idillyc haven in the dry plain fact that some software is open source. Nor there's any rule for closed one. -
On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
Most of the time, I can’t tell if I’m talking to a man or a woman…
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole not all linux forums
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole Setting the mansplainers against themselves is what's called a pro gamer move I reckon
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole Wow, yeah sorry we have so many “superiority complex’s” in technology & science.
I have a few words to say to people about this exact subject… I will rant about it at a later date.
But here’s my main message:
Be kind to one another, people, you have to stop being so “superior” , because you’re not helping anyone learn anything when you behave like this. And no, you’re not “better than everyone” you just “know a bit more of something”. -
On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole This is so clever. I’ve posted questions where I included the steps I tried that didn’t work and still get “answers” asking if I tried doing just those things. I may try this in the future. Thanks!
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@fesshole I normally only stay on certain sides of the Linux community, mostly super queer ones, so I forgot how very non-progressive so much of it is.
@doraii @fesshole The Linux community is probably the most extreme community ever (as a bi furry myself). Excluding the people who use it for their job.
You get the extremely "Don't Tread on Me" individualistic conservatives and then the more collectivist, very gay side which has the vibe of a cheesey cyberpunk film (in a good way) who are responsible for like 80% of the projects people care about.
Surprisingly the Venn diagram isn't entirely seperate.
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
These problems existed long before Internet fora. Back in the days of BBS and fidonet, there was some guy in the Midwest that always confused expanded vs extended memory. I wanted to drive there and kick him in the nuts.
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On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.
@fesshole as a rule I’ve always looked at the answer (or question) not who posted it. As for asking technical Q’s on forums; The 10-80-10 rule applies.
10% are noobs with the wrong answer.
80% don’t know the answer, think they do and often, not always lead you down the wrong path to a partial solution.The final 10% know the answer, may or may not reply or even be on the forums.
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@fesshole Not a woman but often incapable of eliciting a response to my basic Linux questions. Maybe I should try your method!