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@mhoye we'd make a great race of slaves though
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For future reference I'm on Team We Will Never Communicate With Aliens Partly Because The Speed Of Light Sucks And Mostly Because We're Actually Quite Stupid.
Medicine has barely conceded the idea that women are sensate. We struggle with the radical idea that humans with differing bodies or languages or worldviews are equally human. The idea that animals communicate - much less trees or fungus - baffles the post-enlightenment mind. We can _only just_ negotiate with dolphins. Aliens? Forget it.
@mhoye It boggles me that anybody who has had a pet cat or dog can think animals don't think or communicate.
I remember watching some documentary about dolphins and they were talking to a researcher in the morning in front of a dolphin enclosure and in the background his dog was throwing a ball into the pool and the dolphin was knocking it out.
The dog and dophin were spontaneously playing fetch.
Cetaceans and elephants and apes and monkeys and dogs _at least_ are *people*.
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@mhoye It boggles me that anybody who has had a pet cat or dog can think animals don't think or communicate.
I remember watching some documentary about dolphins and they were talking to a researcher in the morning in front of a dolphin enclosure and in the background his dog was throwing a ball into the pool and the dolphin was knocking it out.
The dog and dophin were spontaneously playing fetch.
Cetaceans and elephants and apes and monkeys and dogs _at least_ are *people*.
@Unlikelylass Now and then I remember a Yosemite park ranger saying, when asked why nobody could build a trash can that humans could open but the animals couldn't, that there's a considerable overlap in problem-solving abilities between the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
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@pl @pikesley Part of the reason these aliens stories keep getting traction are people's weirdo escapist subjugation fantasies, for sure.
But... I hate to sound like you're shopping with your mom at the weird escapist subjugation fantasy grocery store, but the fact of it is: it might not be the brand you like, but we have weird escapist subjugation at home.
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For future reference I'm on Team We Will Never Communicate With Aliens Partly Because The Speed Of Light Sucks And Mostly Because We're Actually Quite Stupid.
Medicine has barely conceded the idea that women are sensate. We struggle with the radical idea that humans with differing bodies or languages or worldviews are equally human. The idea that animals communicate - much less trees or fungus - baffles the post-enlightenment mind. We can _only just_ negotiate with dolphins. Aliens? Forget it.
@mhoye Yes, this is why I've thought the Fermi paradox is mistaken. It assumes that alien intelligence would be following the model of humans in the early 20th century US, with exponentially expanding capitalism and exponentially increasing radio broadcasts.
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@mhoye Yes, this is why I've thought the Fermi paradox is mistaken. It assumes that alien intelligence would be following the model of humans in the early 20th century US, with exponentially expanding capitalism and exponentially increasing radio broadcasts.
@foolishowl Yeah. A lot of 'where are the aliens' thinking falls into that bucket. You can make a pretty solid argument that the Fermi Paradox and The Kardashev Scale are really talking about capitalism, and that there are plenty of good answers to the questions they pose.
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@Unlikelylass Now and then I remember a Yosemite park ranger saying, when asked why nobody could build a trash can that humans could open but the animals couldn't, that there's a considerable overlap in problem-solving abilities between the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.
@mhoye my grandfather spent a summer feuding with raccoons who kept getting into his trash. He had an escalating Rube Goldberg trap set up and it kept "failing" in that it would get triggered, but the raccoon would be gone by morning. I pointed out the problem wasn't that his traps didn't work, but that his response time was slow, and gave the raccoons hours to figure out how to defeat whatever he'd added this go around.
He didn't want to hear it. :/
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@mhoye my grandfather spent a summer feuding with raccoons who kept getting into his trash. He had an escalating Rube Goldberg trap set up and it kept "failing" in that it would get triggered, but the raccoon would be gone by morning. I pointed out the problem wasn't that his traps didn't work, but that his response time was slow, and gave the raccoons hours to figure out how to defeat whatever he'd added this go around.
He didn't want to hear it. :/
@Unlikelylass I have tried to defeat my enemies, and all that those efforts have given me is smarter enemies.
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