I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

[projektionsyta@mastodon.nu]

@randahl

This is topped by the sloppy, false allegations that Denmark is a bad ally, and that Nato allies can't be trusted to assist when the US need them. When the Danish body count is the same as the American. I remember seeing Danish Nato vets in Copenhagen after a manifestation, in their uniforms, some in wheelchairs or on crutches, depending on if they had lost one or both legs.

[grumpydad@infosec.exchange]

@randahl The north remembers

[tarnport@mastodon.green]

@randahl I have the same sense: irrevocable rupture. I think is it was actually delayed for a long time, through patient hope and maybe also sunk-cost fallacy, at least since the Iraq war. This is just the clear, sad reckoning and admission, the final divorce after having tried to make a bad marriage work for a long time. It may seem sudden to one mate, but the other has had reasons for decades.

[ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai]

@randahl

Yup. It’s going to be a long time I think before Americans really figure out how much damage has been done. Commercial media platforms aren’t gonna talk about it much and not in any useful detail.

[ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai]

@Rii_cck @randahl

Conviction cannot just stop it Donald Trump. The billionaires who put him in power and who push this agenda of annexation, so they can have the spoils distributed amongst themselves, they too have to be dealt with.. the way to deal with them is to make billionaires not possible. No one should have that much wealth. The companies that make that level of wealth possible should not be also be possible.

Taxation and antitrust are a necessity

[tarnport@mastodon.green]

@jgivoni @randahl American here. Please don't be too quick to let Americans as a whole off the hook. There are a lot of people who give lip service to opposition to the administration who have not sacrificed a blessed thing, but sat on a sofa looking at Facebook, and now the chaos they have allowed without opposition at home is spilling onto the world. Americans have not fought and now they want everyone else to fight.

[geos@toot.community]

@randahl
Maybe a third of them get it, another third think this is what they want because they are in a cult. They don't get that it ends with them drinking purple Kool-aide for their leader.

The final third are in some ways most deplorable - they may get it they don' t care as long as they can afford gas and Combo Meals at the drive through.

This is what 50+ years of underfunding education does.

Peace.

[esnyder@mastodon.social]

@Rii_cck @randahl as a USian I endorse this message.

[iinac@climatejustice.social]

@randahl

I think the rest of the world is very aware of US Imperialsm, and mostly we are thinking, who's next?

[jgivoni@mastodon.social]

@Tarnport @randahl Sure, not letting anyone of the hook 😃

There are plenty of people to blame both here and there, but I prefer to point to the root actor which is Trump, as it is.
Not sure how productive use of time it is to fight between ourselves.

[msh@coales.co]

@randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

[tarnport@mastodon.green]

@jgivoni @randahl I'm not disagreeing. And we should not refuse community to anyone who is ready to help push back the evil.

What I am saying however might not sit so well with you: Trump is a symptom, not a cause. That's my opinion as someone who watched it happen over 28 years, from the first time I sat up and said, "omg - oh no." Trump's way was paved.

[trimtab@mastodon.social]

@randahl
My take is that Tiels / Musks accelerationist agenda which Vance and Trump are merely executing, will be far more harmful than hitler..

Hitler "only" wanted to kill jews, darks, gays and cripples. Accelerationism wants the same plus everyone else who isn't a billionaire. It seeks a world of absolute societal separation: either abject poverty because you're sub human, or the few who own all that exists to own.

Public seriousness is nowhere near where it should be. They've gamed us.

[mimsybean@mastodon.social]

@randahl It should not be forgotten. It is a lesson, a sad one. And no, I don't think the vast majority of US Americans know or understand what happened. Perhaps because they're busy trying not to get shot or arrested by the gov't they elected.

[csstrowbridge@mastodon.social]

@randahl

It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

Mass executions.

Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

[md873@mastodon.social]

@randahl and it just gets worse.
In Australia we wake up every morning wondering what stupidity has erupted from the mouth of that poisonous moron. Todays it is this:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/23/frankly-appalling-uks-starmer-slams-trump-over-afghanistan-comments

The parallels with Hitler are clear. The world must unite against that manipulative, malevolent, ignorant narcissist. Your views are shared by all nations that once looked at the US as a friend.
#worldagainsttrump

[msh@coales.co]

@jgivoni respectfully, you must accept that the rot within the US runs far deeper than "Trump and his fascist pack" from our point of view.

Understand that we don't hate the American PEOPLE (well, not the two thirds of them that are not fascists at least), we feel sorry for them...watching their country as they have known it disintegrate is unimaginable! But also understand this: the US has suffered a broad, systemic sociopolitical breakdown, and "voting the bums out" will not be the end of the problems, it is merely the first step in a healing process that could take many years, decades even, to fully sort out.

@randahl

[darc_fantom@thefolklore.cafe]

@randahl the trouble is most people in America won't know or care & don't have a passport.
They are very insular in and care little for world news.
I don't know if things have changed but their news focus used to be this order;
My local big city
My State
Federal
Quirky world stories

[martinvermeer@fediscience.org]

@notsoloud @randahl And now that you mention it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_at_Bornholm

[kerplunk@mastodon.scot]

@randahl

I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

That is not just the case in Denmark, I can accept Americans citizens, always have done.

The government has been evil for too many years to count, now Europe, at least most of it, is waking up to the fact.

GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE
They are a danger to our safety not an asset.