I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

[iinac@climatejustice.social]

@randahl

I think the rest of the world is very aware of US Imperialsm, and mostly we are thinking, who's next?

[jgivoni@mastodon.social]

@Tarnport @randahl Sure, not letting anyone of the hook 😃

There are plenty of people to blame both here and there, but I prefer to point to the root actor which is Trump, as it is.
Not sure how productive use of time it is to fight between ourselves.

[msh@coales.co]

@randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

[tarnport@mastodon.green]

@jgivoni @randahl I'm not disagreeing. And we should not refuse community to anyone who is ready to help push back the evil.

What I am saying however might not sit so well with you: Trump is a symptom, not a cause. That's my opinion as someone who watched it happen over 28 years, from the first time I sat up and said, "omg - oh no." Trump's way was paved.

[trimtab@mastodon.social]

@randahl
My take is that Tiels / Musks accelerationist agenda which Vance and Trump are merely executing, will be far more harmful than hitler..

Hitler "only" wanted to kill jews, darks, gays and cripples. Accelerationism wants the same plus everyone else who isn't a billionaire. It seeks a world of absolute societal separation: either abject poverty because you're sub human, or the few who own all that exists to own.

Public seriousness is nowhere near where it should be. They've gamed us.

[mimsybean@mastodon.social]

@randahl It should not be forgotten. It is a lesson, a sad one. And no, I don't think the vast majority of US Americans know or understand what happened. Perhaps because they're busy trying not to get shot or arrested by the gov't they elected.

[csstrowbridge@mastodon.social]

@randahl

It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

Mass executions.

Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

[md873@mastodon.social]

@randahl and it just gets worse.
In Australia we wake up every morning wondering what stupidity has erupted from the mouth of that poisonous moron. Todays it is this:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/23/frankly-appalling-uks-starmer-slams-trump-over-afghanistan-comments

The parallels with Hitler are clear. The world must unite against that manipulative, malevolent, ignorant narcissist. Your views are shared by all nations that once looked at the US as a friend.
#worldagainsttrump

[msh@coales.co]

@jgivoni respectfully, you must accept that the rot within the US runs far deeper than "Trump and his fascist pack" from our point of view.

Understand that we don't hate the American PEOPLE (well, not the two thirds of them that are not fascists at least), we feel sorry for them...watching their country as they have known it disintegrate is unimaginable! But also understand this: the US has suffered a broad, systemic sociopolitical breakdown, and "voting the bums out" will not be the end of the problems, it is merely the first step in a healing process that could take many years, decades even, to fully sort out.

@randahl

[darc_fantom@thefolklore.cafe]

@randahl the trouble is most people in America won't know or care & don't have a passport.
They are very insular in and care little for world news.
I don't know if things have changed but their news focus used to be this order;
My local big city
My State
Federal
Quirky world stories

[martinvermeer@fediscience.org]

@notsoloud @randahl And now that you mention it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_at_Bornholm

[kerplunk@mastodon.scot]

@randahl

I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

That is not just the case in Denmark, I can accept Americans citizens, always have done.

The government has been evil for too many years to count, now Europe, at least most of it, is waking up to the fact.

GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE
They are a danger to our safety not an asset.

[evelinesulman@akademienl.social]

@feather1952 @randahl he has two now: his board of peas [sorry] and the lack of gratitude by Canada. But yes, the next one is in the making: he will never be satisfied.

The leech has two daughters:
“Give” and “Give.”
Proverbs 30:15 keeps coming up in my mind...

[agt@mastodon.scot]

@randahl Too right. Most of the people I currently speak to in Britain want the country to cut ties with America completely, which is so sad after Normandy and WW2 but totally understandable. American voters have been unbelievably stupid falling for Trump’s old school far right rhetoric. The lessons of history are clearly fading with a new generation, and a new world order’s arising. I have a very uneasy feeling it’ll all end in tears…

[jeffrey67@mstdn.party]

@randahl This wasn’t a misunderstanding — it was a break in trust. For decades, Denmark’s relationship with the U.S. was rooted in gratitude, shared history, and respect. When sovereignty is spoken of lightly, it reopens old wounds and turns admiration into anger.
Trust between nations, like between people, depends on respect. Once that is publicly questioned, the damage doesn’t fade quickly — and it isn’t easily forgotten

[hadon@mastodon.social]

@randahl

Democracies in the West should work as 'universal healthcare' works. Back in the 40's Germany got sick and all chipped in to cure it from the disease. This time it's the US that needs help.
New technologies allow for mutations of the virus to spread.
What we really need for the long term is a vaccine.

[eq@mas.to]

@AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

[mok0@mastodon.online]

@randahl There are a few people in Denmark who still believe USA is our closest ally, those people are all found on Christiansborg.

[hadon@mastodon.social]

@csstrowbridge @randahl

Not extreme measures, no executions, it's something simpler: Courage. Courage from the Senate, the house, and judges. Courage also from the people in peaceful protests.
Newsom was right on what he said at Davos.

[theimagineproject@mastodon.social]

@randahl Do you support The Imagine project?