I don't think the US is going to occupy Venezuela.
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I don't think the US is going to occupy Venezuela.
It has about 30M people. It's about 900,000 km², about the size of Texas + Oklahoma (or Spain + France).
From everything I've read, the US has about 15,000 troops in the Caribbean.
Compare the invasion of Iraq in 2003 -- about half the area, slightly smaller population. The US deployed about 150,000 troops to the area - 10x what are currently in the Caribbean.
@evan they don't need to occupy if they can get what they want without an occupation. However, if they can't...
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I don't think the US is going to occupy Venezuela.
It has about 30M people. It's about 900,000 km², about the size of Texas + Oklahoma (or Spain + France).
From everything I've read, the US has about 15,000 troops in the Caribbean.
Compare the invasion of Iraq in 2003 -- about half the area, slightly smaller population. The US deployed about 150,000 troops to the area - 10x what are currently in the Caribbean.
The conventional wisdom in occupying a territory successfully says you need about 25 personnel per 1000 inhabitants. For Venezuela, that'd require about 750,000 troops. We put about 600,000 into Vietnam, including allies. Iraq and Afghanistan never got close to this level, by the way -- around 5-10 per 1000. In Vietnam, the US had about 30 troops per 1000, and still didn't maintain control.
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The conventional wisdom in occupying a territory successfully says you need about 25 personnel per 1000 inhabitants. For Venezuela, that'd require about 750,000 troops. We put about 600,000 into Vietnam, including allies. Iraq and Afghanistan never got close to this level, by the way -- around 5-10 per 1000. In Vietnam, the US had about 30 troops per 1000, and still didn't maintain control.
I think the idea that the US will "run" Venezuela is just Donald Trump running off his mouth.
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The conventional wisdom in occupying a territory successfully says you need about 25 personnel per 1000 inhabitants. For Venezuela, that'd require about 750,000 troops. We put about 600,000 into Vietnam, including allies. Iraq and Afghanistan never got close to this level, by the way -- around 5-10 per 1000. In Vietnam, the US had about 30 troops per 1000, and still didn't maintain control.
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@pojntfx I think you responded to the wrong thread.
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I don't think the US is going to occupy Venezuela.
It has about 30M people. It's about 900,000 km², about the size of Texas + Oklahoma (or Spain + France).
From everything I've read, the US has about 15,000 troops in the Caribbean.
Compare the invasion of Iraq in 2003 -- about half the area, slightly smaller population. The US deployed about 150,000 troops to the area - 10x what are currently in the Caribbean.
@evan No, they won't occupy Venezuela that way. They will help someone from the country's right wing to political power to do it for them. Wouldn't be the first time.
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@evan No, they won't occupy Venezuela that way. They will help someone from the country's right wing to political power to do it for them. Wouldn't be the first time.
#Venezuela@maikek Like in Iraq and Vietnam? That didn't work.
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@maikek Like in Iraq and Vietnam? That didn't work.
@maikek maybe like the Contras in Nicaragua? That also did not work.
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@evan they don't need to occupy if they can get what they want without an occupation. However, if they can't...
@weyoun6 ...then what? Like I said, there aren't enough troops deployed right now. It's going to take 10x the troops to invade and occupy Venezuela. There's a big difference between a quick strike and an occupation.
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I think the idea that the US will "run" Venezuela is just Donald Trump running off his mouth.
@evan I'm crossing my fingers that Edmundo González gets back there quickly and the country unites behind him. But you can't count on it, especially with the Trump Administration meddling.
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@maikek maybe like the Contras in Nicaragua? That also did not work.
@maikek there is widespread opposition to Maduro. There are also very few leaders, around the world, who want to ride into the capital on a foreign power's tank. It undermines legitimacy.
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@evan I'm crossing my fingers that Edmundo González gets back there quickly and the country unites behind him. But you can't count on it, especially with the Trump Administration meddling.
@mpjgregoire yeah, it seems unlikely.
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The conventional wisdom in occupying a territory successfully says you need about 25 personnel per 1000 inhabitants. For Venezuela, that'd require about 750,000 troops. We put about 600,000 into Vietnam, including allies. Iraq and Afghanistan never got close to this level, by the way -- around 5-10 per 1000. In Vietnam, the US had about 30 troops per 1000, and still didn't maintain control.
@evan I would think they'd seek a more compliant local puppet regime that has good support from the local thuggery, whether military, police, or gangster.
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The conventional wisdom in occupying a territory successfully says you need about 25 personnel per 1000 inhabitants. For Venezuela, that'd require about 750,000 troops. We put about 600,000 into Vietnam, including allies. Iraq and Afghanistan never got close to this level, by the way -- around 5-10 per 1000. In Vietnam, the US had about 30 troops per 1000, and still didn't maintain control.
@evan about 1M to occupy Canada.
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@mora
Mha.
A me pare che si stia infangando.
E' stato (probabilmente) ammazzato per quello che faceva, in mezzo a 1000 difficoltà.Per me merita rispetto e basta.
Poi come detto, figlio del suo tempo.
Con i pro e contro del caso.Oggi a nessuno verrebbe idea di creare un quartiere per i dipendenti e chiamarlo metanopoli, era epoca in cui il petrolio e il gas erano cosa buona e giusta, ma oggi a chi frega dei dipendenti?
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@rivoluzioneurbanamobilita @milano
Ma è un parcheggio o sono in divieto?
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