It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo".
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross 18 seconds.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross remember how SS Cars had to rebrand to Jaguar after the war? I understand frozen water is already consulting with branding agencies.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross I thought they might go for "Storm Division".
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@cstross remember how SS Cars had to rebrand to Jaguar after the war? I understand frozen water is already consulting with branding agencies.
@NotTheLBCGuy @cstross Now I wonder how much I'll be at risk looking for an ice crusher to buy online...
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross
ICE is throwing more SS vibes for me... -
It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross I thought Homeland Security already has strong nazi vibes.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross I think ICE is more like SA, not Gestapo. Uniformed thugs terrorizing in the streets in the early phases of a fascist regime, not the relatively quiet guys coming to get you when it's fully established.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross The one cheery thought I have is that terrible combovers will go the way of the toothbrush mustache.
(Before Hitler, they were pretty fashionable. Charlie Chaplin had one, as did Oliver Hardy and George Orwell - and apparently, Hitler even styled his after Chaplin's. And now, they will never come back in fashion as long as there is any cultural memory of Hitler.)
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross Depends on how long you think it will take to effectively denazify the US.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross Reform's proposed equivalent is begging to be called Dickhead Command instead
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@cstross remember how SS Cars had to rebrand to Jaguar after the war? I understand frozen water is already consulting with branding agencies.
@NotTheLBCGuy @cstross Big Truck switching nomenclature away from Internal Combustion Engines to Extended Range Electric Vehicles.
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@cstross Depends on how long you think it will take to effectively denazify the US.
@BashStKid I don't now believe the USA can be de-nazified. Large parts can be salvaged via a successor nation, maybe: but what we called the American Century is now definitively over.
2026's 250th anniversary "celebrations" will mark the funeral ceremony.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross I presume the very anachronistic names MI5 and MI6 continue to be used in public because otherwise the obvious abbreviation for the Security Service would be a bit awkward.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross They're not very secret though. I always read them as more like the SA.
On a related note I boggled slightly when working at Camden Council to hear the head of the council described as "The Leader." You'd think any politician with a shred of sense would avoid that title.
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It's funny, isn't it, how since 1945 nobody has named a police force "Gestapo". (Or its English expanded translation, Secret State Police.)
I wonder how long it'll be for ICE?
@cstross the Gestapo wasn’t made up of 'thugs' but of highly educated professionals, including lawyers and academics. They were the intellectual elite of the terror apparatus, operating with cold, bureaucratic efficiency. That’s why the SA (the 'muscle') is a much better fit for comparison. Greetings from Germany.
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@cstross the Gestapo wasn’t made up of 'thugs' but of highly educated professionals, including lawyers and academics. They were the intellectual elite of the terror apparatus, operating with cold, bureaucratic efficiency. That’s why the SA (the 'muscle') is a much better fit for comparison. Greetings from Germany.
@ruebezahl Not to sorry, by 2027 they'll be puring the SA types and everyone will breathe a sigh of relief, not realizing that the real threat is run by Yale law school graduates.
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@cstross remember how SS Cars had to rebrand to Jaguar after the war? I understand frozen water is already consulting with branding agencies.
@NotTheLBCGuy @cstross And recall that the TV show "Downton Abbey" had to quietly drop its canine character called Isis.
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@ruebezahl Not to sorry, by 2027 they'll be puring the SA types and everyone will breathe a sigh of relief, not realizing that the real threat is run by Yale law school graduates.
@cstross that would be the 1934 playbook: purge the 'unruly' SA to win over the public, then let the SS along with Gestapo and SD build a much more terrifyingly efficient machine. The 'Night of the Long Knives' proved that the real danger starts when the chaos of the streets is replaced, bcs it’s the ultimate sign of consolidation: once the regime is secure, the street fighters become a liability and are replaced by the bureaucrats of power.
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@cstross I think ICE is more like SA, not Gestapo. Uniformed thugs terrorizing in the streets in the early phases of a fascist regime, not the relatively quiet guys coming to get you when it's fully established.
I'm seeing this (ICE is more Sturmabteilung than Geheime Staatspolizei.) said in quite a few places, of late. Andrew Bossom went into the subject at length last week, for instance.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BYOeamkqHtc
@cstross
@PilotMoonDog @ruebezahl
#Nazism #history #Stormtroopers #Brownshirts -
I'm seeing this (ICE is more Sturmabteilung than Geheime Staatspolizei.) said in quite a few places, of late. Andrew Bossom went into the subject at length last week, for instance.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BYOeamkqHtc
@cstross
@PilotMoonDog @ruebezahl
#Nazism #history #Stormtroopers #BrownshirtsOn the original question:
I don't think that the TLA 'ICE' will be stigmatized. TLAs are too ambiguous for that. 'Homeland Security' was a suspect name from the start, but will probably not be, either.
Alas, #DonaldJTrump is too vain and not introspective enough to see that xe has stigmatized the name Trump on any building, public monument, organization, or politician, for a long while beyond xyr death.
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