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  • @aeva @gloriouscow @lritter I don't follow birds, but they come to my timeline anyway and the hash tag seems to be... # birds .

    @anton @aeva @lritter

    this is my surprised face

  • @aeva @gloriouscow @lritter I don't follow birds, but they come to my timeline anyway and the hash tag seems to be... # birds .

    @aeva @gloriouscow @lritter
    Oh, also:
    ‘bird of the day’ @ birds @ moresci.sale

  • @gloriouscow @anton @aeva imagine if it were all like "nah you can't follow birds anymore nowadays it's all pensioners posting audrey hepburn lookalikes from the 60s"

  • @gloriouscow @anton @aeva imagine if it were all like "nah you can't follow birds anymore nowadays it's all pensioners posting audrey hepburn lookalikes from the 60s"

    @lritter @anton @aeva

    i think, also acceptable

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow blocking keywords any use?

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow Something I hadn't seen anyone suggest: you don't owe anyone to follow them or see their posts. It's *your* online experience, not theirs. "You make me feel bad" is reason enough to block/mute/unfollow someone who raises your cortisol, even if you don't think they're a bad person.

    Additionally, I don't know what server software your instance is on, but Mastodon has... well not "good" per se, but definitely workable personal moderation tools. Keywords and hashtags can be blocked with reasonable accuracy. (1/2)

  • @gloriouscow Something I hadn't seen anyone suggest: you don't owe anyone to follow them or see their posts. It's *your* online experience, not theirs. "You make me feel bad" is reason enough to block/mute/unfollow someone who raises your cortisol, even if you don't think they're a bad person.

    Additionally, I don't know what server software your instance is on, but Mastodon has... well not "good" per se, but definitely workable personal moderation tools. Keywords and hashtags can be blocked with reasonable accuracy. (1/2)

    @gloriouscow But honestly, just following the right people and hashtags is doing wonders for avoiding current dramas. Literally every major Fediverse drama since I joined I have found out about not by seeing the drama itself, but by seeing people *complaining* about the drama. And just as well now, I don't really see anti-AI posts that much, I'm chilling over here with my bunch of queer artist and hacker creatures who might mention it from time to time but overall just... continue to do their own thing.

    So please, take some agency over your online experience. There's no algorithm in here to feed you only things that keep you watching ads for as long as possible. You have to put some work in yourself in order to create a nice experience, but I promise - it's worth it. (2/2)

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow I feel much the same way, but I don't feel I need to take a break at this time.

    Part of this is that I perceive the endless (and somewhat pointless) anti-AI posts are a reaction to AI being thrust upon people against their wishes. "Screaming into the void" in a way.

    The other part of this is potentially a little "herd signalling", saying loudly and proudly that they're part of the anti-AI herd and feeling community about that.

    In my particular situation, it's pleasing to see that I'm not alone in my feelings about this, as I'm pretty much the lone AI Luddite in an office of people pushing LLMs. And as much as I've made my bed and will lie in it, it is pleasing to know that I'm not the only one out there in a similar situation.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow please take care! It's really difficult to avoid this topic lately :(

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow honestly, whenever something like that happens to me i'll just put a filter on the term for a while. helps a ton :)

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow Sounds like it's been really frustrating for you.

    I know post filtering has worked really well. I filter content which is likely to impact my mental health. YMMV

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space i am trying to boost less ai posts but not always succeeding. anyway a break can be good for mind and eyes and posture
  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow filters

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow May I recommend creating a filter? I filter a few things. I find that it works very well.

  • @cr1901

    The one thing that probably has the most influence on our beliefs about people are our personal relationships with people different from us, and realizing that they are still people at the end of the day. I don't know why it seems to be a particular quirk of the human soul that we often need a personal example before we can feel empathy, but that seems to just be how it is.

    I know people that use Claude or other tools, and that is costing me a lot of mental energy and quite a bit of cognitive dissonance. I know some of these these people are talented, passionate, intelligent people who got into coding for the same reasons we all did. We can believe they are ethically challenged, perhaps. but we are all flawed, messy creatures who make daily ethical compromises in some way.

    I'm really honestly surprised that more people here don't personally know anyone that they hold in any regard whatsoever that use an LLM because it seems like I'm the only one struggling with trying to understand why people I know and respect can look at the ethical costs and shrug. (meanwhile vegans are like "lol, first time?")

    I know what I'm seeing is the result of a lot of frustration and hopelessness. I don't personally know what to do about it, either. But I'm just worried that we never will as long as we abandon nuance in favor of a perpetual fediverse circlejerk.

    I've pretty much disowned my family for their beliefs. I am not ready to give up a good chunk of my friends as well. I can't. I can't just sit here angry at the world, utterly alone.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 I hear you, and thanks for posting this. I am also jaded from this.

    I know people who use these tools, and am finding the flattened argument against them hard to sit with. In particular, two friends who are severely dyslexic have found some solace in chatGPT as an aide. They are aware of the problems, but are also aware of their systematic exclusion based on ability. This is not as black and white as people tend to make it on here.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow so true, i'm a little bit tired of that as well. that's why i try to avoid talking about it.
    i want to see cool stuff, i'm less interested to be informed that vim will contain generated code.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow I was forced to quit my job this week after the CEO unilaterally decided to force LLM on all employees. This move was done after a three months recruitment process and six interviews during which they swore they would NEVER do such a thing.
    I was happy to read anti-AI stuff on the fediverse this week to steam off. This gave me strength to feel that I was not alone.

    I understand your topic burnout. To be honest, I sometimes feel like this is not a topic burnout for me, but a carrier burnout, if not more.

    All of this to say that it would be sad to leave behind the fediverse because of this topic burnout. Unfortunately, other social medias are also filled with the same topic; the opinions are just in favor of it, there.

    You should feel entitled to filter your own timeline. And if you can't, you are obviously entitled to take a break from social medias. I sometimes feel this is the right move.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow this has been getting under my skin a bit as well. Especially as ai-related things are happening in my own workplace and I come on here to find... more ai discussion.

    I dont remember who said it but I read on here some time ago about how anti-war media is just as obsessed with war as pro-war media, and I think that this anti-ai circlejerk has the same thing going on. There's a time and place to make the arguments against it, and even crash out over it if one needs, but if it's all we post about then we're doing no better than the boosters

  • @cr1901

    i can wax sixteen different ways of cynical about it.

    I am not really so much concerned with the affect of software quality long-term as much as I am concerned with our eventual irrelevance.

    That assumes a generous prediction of the trajectory of AI, of course. I do believe that AGI will be achieved, and I am absolutely convinced we have no plan for it whatsoever.

    I think that people can actually use Copilot to review PRs without that being the end of open source itself and all of civilization, but it is a technological truce at best.

    there's been a lot of discussion over what our motivations as programmers even are. I feel my sense of personal pride giving way to thoughts about my legacy and my lasting contributions to the world, and start to wonder, if AI could help me accomplish that, ... well, the intellectual opiate starts to smell temptingly sweet.

    There is an undeniable jealousy to see the ease at which people can make their ideas real with a few prompts now.

    What would probably help more than Claude is if I could stop starting projects I never fucking finish.

    But everything I am struggling to make now feels like I am casting irrelevant, trivial detritus into the turbulent sea of an uncertain future.

    oh, I gave the world a cycle-accurate 8088 emulator. I should get a goddamn nobel prize.

    I miss feeling optimistic about our future, but I couldn't tell you the last time i did.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 I want to challenge your premise that we're speaking to an audience who isn't here, to the AI pushers.

    The way I see it, if you're worried about being made irrelevant, if you believe this current push by the technofascist AI cult has any chance of leading to anything like "AGI", then you are our primary audience.

    My goal in speaking out against and debunking their parlor tricks is to build a feeling among people who feel threatened by AI and forced into adopting it that all our enemy has is smoke and mirrors on top of standard capitalist abuses, not any miracle technology that is going to deliver them a win over us.

  • @gloriouscow @cr1901 I want to challenge your premise that we're speaking to an audience who isn't here, to the AI pushers.

    The way I see it, if you're worried about being made irrelevant, if you believe this current push by the technofascist AI cult has any chance of leading to anything like "AGI", then you are our primary audience.

    My goal in speaking out against and debunking their parlor tricks is to build a feeling among people who feel threatened by AI and forced into adopting it that all our enemy has is smoke and mirrors on top of standard capitalist abuses, not any miracle technology that is going to deliver them a win over us.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 Yes surely as you say "AGI" is possible. It's possible to build a machine that replicates the nervous system of an animal with intelligence and give it matching sensory inputs, and any reasonable person would expect it to exhibit the same kind of intelligence.

    This has nothing to do with the path the AI cult is on, which is literally Dan Brown level of bullshit, claiming that the secrets of uncovering new truths about the world are buried in the statistical patterns of past human language usage.


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