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  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow filters

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow May I recommend creating a filter? I filter a few things. I find that it works very well.

  • @cr1901

    The one thing that probably has the most influence on our beliefs about people are our personal relationships with people different from us, and realizing that they are still people at the end of the day. I don't know why it seems to be a particular quirk of the human soul that we often need a personal example before we can feel empathy, but that seems to just be how it is.

    I know people that use Claude or other tools, and that is costing me a lot of mental energy and quite a bit of cognitive dissonance. I know some of these these people are talented, passionate, intelligent people who got into coding for the same reasons we all did. We can believe they are ethically challenged, perhaps. but we are all flawed, messy creatures who make daily ethical compromises in some way.

    I'm really honestly surprised that more people here don't personally know anyone that they hold in any regard whatsoever that use an LLM because it seems like I'm the only one struggling with trying to understand why people I know and respect can look at the ethical costs and shrug. (meanwhile vegans are like "lol, first time?")

    I know what I'm seeing is the result of a lot of frustration and hopelessness. I don't personally know what to do about it, either. But I'm just worried that we never will as long as we abandon nuance in favor of a perpetual fediverse circlejerk.

    I've pretty much disowned my family for their beliefs. I am not ready to give up a good chunk of my friends as well. I can't. I can't just sit here angry at the world, utterly alone.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 I hear you, and thanks for posting this. I am also jaded from this.

    I know people who use these tools, and am finding the flattened argument against them hard to sit with. In particular, two friends who are severely dyslexic have found some solace in chatGPT as an aide. They are aware of the problems, but are also aware of their systematic exclusion based on ability. This is not as black and white as people tend to make it on here.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow so true, i'm a little bit tired of that as well. that's why i try to avoid talking about it.
    i want to see cool stuff, i'm less interested to be informed that vim will contain generated code.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow I was forced to quit my job this week after the CEO unilaterally decided to force LLM on all employees. This move was done after a three months recruitment process and six interviews during which they swore they would NEVER do such a thing.
    I was happy to read anti-AI stuff on the fediverse this week to steam off. This gave me strength to feel that I was not alone.

    I understand your topic burnout. To be honest, I sometimes feel like this is not a topic burnout for me, but a carrier burnout, if not more.

    All of this to say that it would be sad to leave behind the fediverse because of this topic burnout. Unfortunately, other social medias are also filled with the same topic; the opinions are just in favor of it, there.

    You should feel entitled to filter your own timeline. And if you can't, you are obviously entitled to take a break from social medias. I sometimes feel this is the right move.

  • I think i may need a break from mastodon.

    it is not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my feed is now just various anti-AI posts.

    the people pushing AI aren't here. they are not on your Mastodon instance. When you post about how terrible and ignorant and stupid they are they do not see it, and it's not like that sort of thing persuades anyone even if they did.

    I want to keep up with the cool stuff you are all making and doing. But I realize I am not entitled to just pick and choose from the things you find important enough to share, so I am not sure what else to do when I find that reading my feed no longer improves my mental health.

    @gloriouscow this has been getting under my skin a bit as well. Especially as ai-related things are happening in my own workplace and I come on here to find... more ai discussion.

    I dont remember who said it but I read on here some time ago about how anti-war media is just as obsessed with war as pro-war media, and I think that this anti-ai circlejerk has the same thing going on. There's a time and place to make the arguments against it, and even crash out over it if one needs, but if it's all we post about then we're doing no better than the boosters

  • @cr1901

    i can wax sixteen different ways of cynical about it.

    I am not really so much concerned with the affect of software quality long-term as much as I am concerned with our eventual irrelevance.

    That assumes a generous prediction of the trajectory of AI, of course. I do believe that AGI will be achieved, and I am absolutely convinced we have no plan for it whatsoever.

    I think that people can actually use Copilot to review PRs without that being the end of open source itself and all of civilization, but it is a technological truce at best.

    there's been a lot of discussion over what our motivations as programmers even are. I feel my sense of personal pride giving way to thoughts about my legacy and my lasting contributions to the world, and start to wonder, if AI could help me accomplish that, ... well, the intellectual opiate starts to smell temptingly sweet.

    There is an undeniable jealousy to see the ease at which people can make their ideas real with a few prompts now.

    What would probably help more than Claude is if I could stop starting projects I never fucking finish.

    But everything I am struggling to make now feels like I am casting irrelevant, trivial detritus into the turbulent sea of an uncertain future.

    oh, I gave the world a cycle-accurate 8088 emulator. I should get a goddamn nobel prize.

    I miss feeling optimistic about our future, but I couldn't tell you the last time i did.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 I want to challenge your premise that we're speaking to an audience who isn't here, to the AI pushers.

    The way I see it, if you're worried about being made irrelevant, if you believe this current push by the technofascist AI cult has any chance of leading to anything like "AGI", then you are our primary audience.

    My goal in speaking out against and debunking their parlor tricks is to build a feeling among people who feel threatened by AI and forced into adopting it that all our enemy has is smoke and mirrors on top of standard capitalist abuses, not any miracle technology that is going to deliver them a win over us.

  • @gloriouscow @cr1901 I want to challenge your premise that we're speaking to an audience who isn't here, to the AI pushers.

    The way I see it, if you're worried about being made irrelevant, if you believe this current push by the technofascist AI cult has any chance of leading to anything like "AGI", then you are our primary audience.

    My goal in speaking out against and debunking their parlor tricks is to build a feeling among people who feel threatened by AI and forced into adopting it that all our enemy has is smoke and mirrors on top of standard capitalist abuses, not any miracle technology that is going to deliver them a win over us.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 Yes surely as you say "AGI" is possible. It's possible to build a machine that replicates the nervous system of an animal with intelligence and give it matching sensory inputs, and any reasonable person would expect it to exhibit the same kind of intelligence.

    This has nothing to do with the path the AI cult is on, which is literally Dan Brown level of bullshit, claiming that the secrets of uncovering new truths about the world are buried in the statistical patterns of past human language usage.

  • @gloriouscow @cr1901 I want to challenge your premise that we're speaking to an audience who isn't here, to the AI pushers.

    The way I see it, if you're worried about being made irrelevant, if you believe this current push by the technofascist AI cult has any chance of leading to anything like "AGI", then you are our primary audience.

    My goal in speaking out against and debunking their parlor tricks is to build a feeling among people who feel threatened by AI and forced into adopting it that all our enemy has is smoke and mirrors on top of standard capitalist abuses, not any miracle technology that is going to deliver them a win over us.

    @dalias @cr1901

    I scrolled your feed for quite some time and I saw one singular post about Lego figures that was anything besides angry reposts about AI.

    I saw nothing about what you have created, what you are working on, why I would have any interest in your voice.

    You might be absolutely right about everything you say and share, but I am never going to want to follow a feed of joyless anger.

    I can't tell you how to utilize your social media or that your primary purpose for using it shouldn't be amplifying the messages you find most imporant.

    It's just not why I'm here.

  • @gloriouscow blocking keywords any use?

    @Photo55 A few people have pointed this out and I'm reading up on the filtering function now. My main concern is that a two letter term might be an overly broad thing to filter, but I can give it a shot.

  • @dalias @cr1901

    I scrolled your feed for quite some time and I saw one singular post about Lego figures that was anything besides angry reposts about AI.

    I saw nothing about what you have created, what you are working on, why I would have any interest in your voice.

    You might be absolutely right about everything you say and share, but I am never going to want to follow a feed of joyless anger.

    I can't tell you how to utilize your social media or that your primary purpose for using it shouldn't be amplifying the messages you find most imporant.

    It's just not why I'm here.

    @gloriouscow @cr1901 Maybe federation does something weird, but from what I recall/skim in the past couple days I've posted or boosted joy at seeing Girlyman is back, vintage equipment, information exposing funding sources behind the "age verification" offensive, joy at moving to Codeberg, folks searching for work, stuff about portability vs Apple bugs, joy of ppl making games, requests for help choosing software, info on new privacy threats, ...

    On top of a pretty large amount of boosts related to AI threats, but a number of these are about strategies for dealing with demands to use it, ways to be effective communicating with project maintainers requesting policies to keep it out, etc. And some warnings about key infrastructure being compromised. No "angry reposts".

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