Modern Italian culture is rife with burning old women in effigy as witches or evil crones.
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Modern Italian culture is rife with burning old women in effigy as witches or evil crones. But now it's reached my Presepe and I'm really pissed!
Apparently the washerwoman (or midwife!) attending the Virgin in the Neapolitan tradition, while porting a litany of other symbols, is also associated with the Devil in disguise, trying to keep Mary from giving birth to the Christ.
Now, I'd welcome a kinky demon outright to my manger scene, but the guise of an old woman is pure misogyny. Again.
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Modern Italian culture is rife with burning old women in effigy as witches or evil crones. But now it's reached my Presepe and I'm really pissed!
Apparently the washerwoman (or midwife!) attending the Virgin in the Neapolitan tradition, while porting a litany of other symbols, is also associated with the Devil in disguise, trying to keep Mary from giving birth to the Christ.
Now, I'd welcome a kinky demon outright to my manger scene, but the guise of an old woman is pure misogyny. Again.
Have you double check this information? Because I'd never heard about a devil/witch in the presepe.
I'll also double check on my side because both my parents and my grandparents were from Benevento, which is known as "the city of witches" but I discovered that only ten years ago. Just to say that my family wasn't so good at telling me about witches 😁
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Have you double check this information? Because I'd never heard about a devil/witch in the presepe.
I'll also double check on my side because both my parents and my grandparents were from Benevento, which is known as "the city of witches" but I discovered that only ten years ago. Just to say that my family wasn't so good at telling me about witches 😁
@max I am awed by this info. I know quite a bit about Benevento and witches! I actually started a novel about it set in 1642 (unfinished). What a great heritage.
About the Presepe it's pretty solid info for some quarters but the tradition varies obv and more importantly has been sanitized, so it doesn't show up a lot. Here's a link:
https://www.associazionesancumano.com/2023/08/31/lo-straordinario-simbolismo-del-presepe-napoletaThis isn't definitive, just an example I had open in a tab. Here the devil-woman is at the Annunciation instead and recognized by a hoof!
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@max I am awed by this info. I know quite a bit about Benevento and witches! I actually started a novel about it set in 1642 (unfinished). What a great heritage.
About the Presepe it's pretty solid info for some quarters but the tradition varies obv and more importantly has been sanitized, so it doesn't show up a lot. Here's a link:
https://www.associazionesancumano.com/2023/08/31/lo-straordinario-simbolismo-del-presepe-napoletaThis isn't definitive, just an example I had open in a tab. Here the devil-woman is at the Annunciation instead and recognized by a hoof!
Nice to know.
If you have the chance to visit Benevento you should reserve an hour to visit the museum of the "Janara" (that's the name of Benevento witch).
There are a few young people (I guess anthropologists or something like that) that collected information about all that story and set up a little exhibition.
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Adesso nevica bene.
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Nice to know.
If you have the chance to visit Benevento you should reserve an hour to visit the museum of the "Janara" (that's the name of Benevento witch).
There are a few young people (I guess anthropologists or something like that) that collected information about all that story and set up a little exhibition.
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@matz yes! In pianta più o meno stabile perché poi mi sposto spesso e farò un salto ad Atene il prima possibile (lavoro da remoto sempre con base giù)
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@Micolcosta appoggiarli sulle gambe di qualcuno che non ha problemi di circolazione per scaldarli?
(solo se la vittima è consenziente)
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@LaVi nel frattempo qualche fiocco sparso si è visto anche qui!
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