TL;DR Most EV batteries will last longer than the cars they’re in.

[acidicx@mastodon.condime.de]

@jwildeboer SoC limit usually has to be set by the user, BMS does not do this automatically. However @mirabilos your point is invalid. The typical daily range that is driven is 20km or less. So you don't need to charge up to 100% all the time. Just as almost nobody always leaves a petrol car with 100% fuel level in the garage every day. And if you are going on a long trip, there is no harm to charge up to 100%. Just don't do it every time and leave it in that state and you'll be fine.

[newstik@social.heise.de]

@JYeo18 @jwildeboer Yes because they are massively subsidized there compared to conventional vehicles. In that environment, I'd happily buy a car that is guaranteed to go up on flames after a decade. That doesn't translate to other parts of the North.

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

@newstik I am sure you have numbers from a reliable source that backup your statement that EV's go up in flames typically after 10 years of use. (you don't and you know you don't). @JYeo18

[franciscos@mastodon.social]

@jwildeboer I bet that study jinxed it for everybody.

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

@newstik

"Quick Summary

Frequency of Fires: EVs are far less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles—20 times less according to Swedish data—despite high-profile media coverage of EV fire incidents."

https://ev-lectron.com/blogs/blog/ev-fires-vs-ice-fires-safety-comparison-and-analysis

@JYeo18

[mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org]

@jwildeboer @acidicX yes but the use case I’m eyeing (due to circumstances) is daily nothing, and very occasionally either 10 km or 80 km

[mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org]

@jwildeboer @acidicX and Inhad been hoping to get the option of a very small vehicle for that

[eskealler@friendica.dk]

@jwildeboer
This is truly very interesting!

[acidicx@mastodon.condime.de]

@mirabilos @jwildeboer well even the most basic EV currently on sale - Dacia Spring - will handle 80km at 80% SoC without any issues :)

[mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org]

@jwildeboer @acidicX that’s the bare travel distance, need to figure out how to load them on both sides as well… plus margin, ofc. I was just saying that I’d need to have much more margin than planned, then.

[leeloo@chaosfem.tw]

@jwildeboer
5-7 years is new around here. Mine was 11 when I bought it, will be 35 this year.

When possible I avoid things with lithium batteries, because the battery is usually the first thing that dies.

[mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org]

@jwildeboer @acidicX it’ll need more planning than just the thing stands there and can be used and occasionally the bother of having to tank petroleum is needed, which was already bothersome :/ at least it’ll stink less.

[renard@equestria.social]

@jwildeboer @dynom I'm no petrolhead, but you do you with the insults, sure

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

@renard My reply was to @dynom but you taking it personally tells me something. Welcome to my blocklist! :)

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@pstewart @jwildeboer My impression is that traditional US manufacturers like Ford have fully embraced the private equity philosophy (pivot to enshittification milking the brand name until it's dry) but Honda and Toyota and the likes might (?) still be making quality stuff. In any case I'd opt for a 20-30 yo car over any of them.

[newstik@social.heise.de]

@jwildeboer @JYeo18 I never said anything like that.

[susannahwrites@mastodon.nz]

My 6 year old EV still has 100% battery SOH. It’s almost always charged from a plain wall socket and we live in a temperate climate.

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

The amount of truly weird arguments to defend NOT being interested in switching to an EV in the replies is stunning.

[jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net]

@newstik How should I read "I'd happily buy a car that is guaranteed to go up on flames after a decade" instead? @JYeo18

[ironmaniv@theforkiverse.com]

@bob_zim @jwildeboer Yes, I would agree current designs are not designed for longevity. I am very concerned about all of the gadget grade electronics. I expect the nightmare of things like the Apple Carplay compatibility nightmare to get worse. The tendency has been to load up all cars with gadgets.