NEW: #Bluesky is having a banning controversy that revealed the limitations of its federation capabilities.
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NEW: #Bluesky is having a banning controversy that revealed the limitations of its federation capabilities.
No one is running a fully independent AT Protocol stack because it's so complex, not even the Blacksky community.
My full exclusive report with quotes from Bluesky and the banned user plus detailed technical analysis of the state of AT Protocol federation: https://plus.flux.community/p/banning-controversy-reveals-blueskys
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NEW: #Bluesky is having a banning controversy that revealed the limitations of its federation capabilities.
No one is running a fully independent AT Protocol stack because it's so complex, not even the Blacksky community.
My full exclusive report with quotes from Bluesky and the banned user plus detailed technical analysis of the state of AT Protocol federation: https://plus.flux.community/p/banning-controversy-reveals-blueskys
Good summery of events.
None of this complexity should be surprising, and has been foretold by ActivityPub developer @cwebber. Christine published a two-part series of very technical analysis of ATProtocol. The second piece (Dec 2024 https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/) addresses what inherently makes real decentralization prohibitive. In particular, while ActivityPub scales linearly, ATProtocol has quadratic scaling. The result is an explosion of traffic as nodes are added to the system.
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undefined Christine Lemmer-Webber ha condiviso questa discussione
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Good summery of events.
None of this complexity should be surprising, and has been foretold by ActivityPub developer @cwebber. Christine published a two-part series of very technical analysis of ATProtocol. The second piece (Dec 2024 https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/) addresses what inherently makes real decentralization prohibitive. In particular, while ActivityPub scales linearly, ATProtocol has quadratic scaling. The result is an explosion of traffic as nodes are added to the system.
@mastodonmigration @mattsheffield Note the second piece is https://dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-bluesky-decentralization/
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undefined Emanuele Cariati ha condiviso questa discussione
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@liaizon @pfefferle what did you think?
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@irelephant@app.wafrn.net @admin @_elena @irelephant@calckey.world
oh, also external account, nice
https://app.wafrn.net/blog/@luca.sironi.tk
(i just couldn't get used to wafrn gui)
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I'm not too sure about the third party client bit, people could get around country specific ones, but I don't know if they can get around the main one. Right now, deer.social has the person blocked.
They're on wafrn: https://app.wafrn.net/blog/@spacelawshitpost.me
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@irelephant@app.wafrn.net @admin @_elena @irelephant@calckey.world
I guess the most concerns, from people wanting to understand, are related to the AT pieces with fewer alternatives, like relays and appview.
Is this "link" user visible to users hosted on the main Bluesky, if they use a 3rd part client like deer.social ?
Is it visible to people on Blacksky or Wafrn ?
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@mastodonmigration @mattsheffield Note the second piece is https://dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-bluesky-decentralization/
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Good summery of events.
None of this complexity should be surprising, and has been foretold by ActivityPub developer @cwebber. Christine published a two-part series of very technical analysis of ATProtocol. The second piece (Dec 2024 https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/) addresses what inherently makes real decentralization prohibitive. In particular, while ActivityPub scales linearly, ATProtocol has quadratic scaling. The result is an explosion of traffic as nodes are added to the system.
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No, there's loads of alternate PDSes. (1200 right now).
My PDS is altq.net, but there's also bsky.global and bsky.aenead.net and the tangled pds.
Wafrn comes with it's own pds as well.
I can use my altq pds, and https://reddwarf.whey.party/ and use bluesky without Bluesky PBC being able to control anything.
It's important to note that Link (the guy who got banned) still has his account accessible on the blacksky pds, it's just hidden on the two clients.
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Just finished listening to @pfefferle interview @evan about the long and arduous history of the #fediverse from OpenMicroblogging and OStatus through to the present day
https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/10/07/evan-prodromou-on-openchannels-fm #podcasts
