Alrighty, it looks like I tossed my name into the hat to assist here.
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Alrighty, it looks like I tossed my name into the hat to assist here. We'll see where this goes.
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/issues/89#issuecomment-7587883
#DNS #FEP #ActivityPub #Fediverse
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@blainsmith nice.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@stefan @evana @mastodonmigration These are indeed the harder questions to ask! I'm glad you're asking them
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Just trying to imagine this playing out IRL. Someone pulls me to the side to talk to me, surrounds me with their buddies. Now, they might all be very nice people. But this situation just sounds inherently threatening.
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@scottjenson It just sounds like we might need to turn the conversation around and instead of asking how to mitigate this feature's potential for abuse, a better question might be, why is this useful?
If to limit a posts visibility, maybe using "quiet public" is a better option?
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@stefan @evana @mastodonmigration yes, if this is a server feature and not a client one, then my concern goes away.
But I can 100% guarantee you that there is a small group of people that do this for very positive and supportive reasons that will be quite miffed if we do this (which just might be necessary!)
This is why I'm trying to find other ways of looking at this problem. I want to solve it! Just trying to find the right lever.
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@scottjenson Right, but could the message get rejected by the server when it sees a "followers only" visibility, and the recipient is not a follower?
Almost like a quick, temporary auto-block of that person.
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@stefan @evana @mastodonmigration I agree! But you're pointing out to one of the pros/cons of the fediverse. Restricting followers-only to not have a +1 is a client limitation, something that could be avoided with a custom client.
Repeat after me: "Federation makes everything harder"
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I know we're very early into the conversation, and I'm sure more ideas will come up, but so far everything is just telling me that followers-only+1 posts should not be possible and rejected as "+1 is not a follower".
The workarounds are getting confusing.
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@evana @mastodonmigration @stefan Agree with your points but we're still circling around the issue of how likely this happens (and how)
I DONT want to imply I don't believe people that say it happens, I'm just trying to understand the broader flow, i.e. how can a Brigade operate in secrecy? It just seems very fragile as they likely do other things that get them banned. Have we seen a large scale brigade that worked this way for a while? What causes them to trip up? Let's focus on that.
