I want this but as a Linux distribution.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/116104645693904284
@mcc Have you seen https://norden.social/@knoppix95@mastodon.social/116104645844598267 and alike?
I think apart from Mozilla, most projects are on board to fight or at least block AI.
@ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kinda… that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
@mcc yeah. shit.
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@ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kinda… that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.
@ftranschel In addition, I have committed a tremendous error which is now coming back to bite me: I installed software written by BlueSky PBC
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
@mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Password—it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."
Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.
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@mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Password—it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."
Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.
@itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know
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@itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
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@mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
@mcc Yeah, KeePassXC going this route really hurt. I'm probably going to migrate back to a text file encrypted with gnupg for basic password management, but I have no idea what I'm going to use for one-time passcodes.
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@mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?
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@mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?
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@ariadne I am, in a flippant and general way, saying I want to eradicate all code with "AI code assistant" contributions from my computer and VPSes, but I do not currently know a way to do so. I keep having programs I previously installed add the poison after the fact without public notice. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/116110912928005524
Perhaps in future I will have to use Alpine Linux if that's how I get my code audited for no "AI" contributions.
@mcc @ariadne I have the same feeling, if something I use start accepting AI code assistant contributions, I am considering it the same way as any proprietary software.
On the subject of Bitwarden, it seems that Vaultwarden isn't accepting any AI contributions so far (would need to dig more into issues/PRs to be 100% sure), so I will likely fork bitwarden client or make my own client... 🙃
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
@mcc I admit I don't know the KeePass ecosystem terribly well, but does this go "up the chain" to regular KeePass 2.x or is it just XC?
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RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718
I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs
@mcc I am dropping/switching any FOSS tools that I know are using GenAI/LLMs and it is getting bleak -_-
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My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline
RE: https://wellduck.me/@greyduck/116110983001607000
I would like the answer to this question as well.
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@mcc @ariadne I have the same feeling, if something I use start accepting AI code assistant contributions, I am considering it the same way as any proprietary software.
On the subject of Bitwarden, it seems that Vaultwarden isn't accepting any AI contributions so far (would need to dig more into issues/PRs to be 100% sure), so I will likely fork bitwarden client or make my own client... 🙃
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@mcc I am dropping/switching any FOSS tools that I know are using GenAI/LLMs and it is getting bleak -_-
@Brett_E_Carlock the problem is removing any one tool from my life is a relatively large time investment and projects are adding "boycott me" flags faster than I can switch to or create alternatives
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@mcc @itamarst my prediction is that they will pretend that once there are a few more truly catastrophic stories in the press, like if a whistleblower shows up to conclusively prove that Microsoft *knows* copilot is causing all the Windows bugs that everyone suspects it is, they will simply change the copy on their website to indicate that they were always against this and they were never fooled, and there will not be consequences for anyone involved
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@Brett_E_Carlock the problem is removing any one tool from my life is a relatively large time investment and projects are adding "boycott me" flags faster than I can switch to or create alternatives
@mcc Yeah, absolutely. Thankfully so far these changes have all been low-stakes for me, but they are disruptive none-the-less.
As a fairly recent full time Linux everywhere user, something as stupid as changing my music manager app was a pretty significant shakeup. Twice, back to back, no less, after finally settling on each one. Enough that I had to package an entirely different media manager to use, since I had no other options I remotely enjoyed using.
Again, whinging, but the pattern holds
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Quizzino della domenica: dadi riordinati
@matematica - Riordinare i dadi non è sempre facile.
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@danjones000 @Matt_Noyes It does not hurt to try to reduce those emissions; reducing any emissions is good.
But shaming people for using AI as if they are solely responsible for climate change is intellectually dishonest.
There are plenty of other problems with AI; "burning up the planet" is not a convincing one.
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Quieting Noisy Resistors
[Hans Rosenberg] has a new video talking about a nasty side effect of using resistors: noise. If you watch the video below, you’ll learn that there are two sources of resistor noise: Johnson noise, which doesn’t depend on the construction of the resistor, and 1/f noise, which does vary depending on the material and construction of the resistor.
In simple terms, some resistors use materials that cause electron flow to take different paths through the resistor. That means that different parts of the signal experience slightly different resistance values. In simple applications, it won’t matter much, but in places where noise is an important factor, the 1/f or excess noise contributes more to errors than the Johnson noise at low frequencies.
[Hans] doesn’t just talk the math. He also built a simple test rig that lets him measure the 1/f noise with some limitations. While you might pretend that all resistors are the same, the test shows that thick film resistors produce much more noise than other types.
The video shows some rule-of-thumb lists indicating which resistors have better noise figures than others. Of course, resistors are only one source of noise in circuits. But they are so common that it is easy to forget they aren’t as perfect as we pretend in our schematics.
Want to learn more about noise? We can help. On the other hand, noise isn’t always a bad thing.
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@sako this looks so beautiful!
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@danjones000 @Matt_Noyes electricity is only about 1/3 of global emissions. All data centers, including AI datacenters, are only 1% of electricity usage. That makes 0.3% of total emissions.
Much more emissions are due to cars, meat, cement production and rice cultivation.
I recognize that AI has a lot of electricity use; it is nothing compared to the other things you do with your time.
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Energy from training
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Oh no, Deep Space Nine auto-played after Starfleet Academy. Now I have to watch the whole thing for the third or fourth time. No other option, I guess.
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Another application for AI. Have an AI bot go to a conference for me and listen to everything. Only tell me about the things that I would be interested in.
