I want this but as a Linux distribution.

[johnlehet@mas.to]

@maaneeack @mcc StrongBox has been sold to a company with maybe iffy success with the products they have acquired. I had first hand experience with their mess-up of the Mac utility Bartender, which I bailed on after their version.

[mozziediver@mastodon.social]

@WideEyedCurious
If you're ok with local storage and local replication rather than "cloudy", there's pwsafe. You could keep the db in some less local storage, I guess.
https://www.pwsafe.org/index.shtml

[gaditb@icosahedron.website]

@mcc @argv_minus_one @elfin I use https://www.keepassdx.com/ on android, and sync the file over with Syncthing.

I don't THINK either of those projects use LLMs, but I haven't been machmir about poring over careful details when checking.

[just_one_bear@mastodon.social]

@greyduck @mcc From all that I have seen regarding The Original KeePass (authored by Dominik Reichl in C# for .NET/Mono) has made no mention of AI pollution. How Mono are handling AI I haven't looked at, but for .NET: Microsoft is as they are.

KeePassXC (maintained by the KeePassXC team in C++ using the QT toolkit) announced the use of AI and then clarified the scope later. KeePassXC is a separate project that uses the keepass vault format but it its own thing.

[paulshryock@phpc.social]

@mcc yikes

[frumble@chaos.social]

@chopsstephens @jcnotwit @mcc But there are forks of the pre-vibecoded XC now, no need to switch to a whole other program.

[justsoup@mstdn.social]

@mary @mcc There was an effort to do this called open-slopware, but the creator got harassed by LLM apologists into deleting it and leaving open-source. After that, people who had local forks put them up and began working on their own versions. I was dissatisfied with the layout of the previous version, so myself and a few other contributors to open-slopware created https://codeberg.org/ai-alternatives/llm-afflicted-software hoping to avoid the pitfalls of the previous repo. It's not perfect, but it is chugging along slowly.

[justsoup@mstdn.social]

@mary @mcc The major changes made were:

1. yaml instead of markdown so its machine-readable (I want to develop a tool chat checks your system for llm software).
2. Requiring signoffs and signing of commits to limit troll submissions through annoyance (LLM apologists were brigading open-slopware with genAI MRs and one got in)
3. More carefully vetting sources and reasons for submissions so only actually "bad" projects are added.

[cuddle_puddle@mastodon.catgirl.cloud]

@mcc@mastodon.social @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @elfin@mstdn.social I've been using keepass2android for a long time, and have been quite happy with it. I haven't poked deeply at it to check for LLM use, but there's nothing obvious in the contributor's graph (a single unlinked copilot commit of 1+ 1-)

[nekohayo@mastodon.social]

@jcnotwit for one-time passcodes you could use this standalone desktop application: https://apps.gnome.org/Authenticator/
@mcc

[nekohayo@mastodon.social]

@nina_kali_nina @lunarloony @luana @mcc time to get crackin' on your escape hatch for those not already using the keypass file format: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/secrets/-/issues/509

[oleksii@social.linux.pizza]

@mcc not sure if anyone mentioned a passkey. For me it's good compromise security and convince wise. My yubikey works ok with laptop and phones too.

[menel@snikket.de]

@mcc@mastodon.social
I think #debian has you covered.
Didn't encounter an AI there 🤖 🤖
Edit: ooh, you meant as tool to create the system, not as part of the system....
Never mind... 😄

[martin207@mastodon.social]

@mcc Taking an undifferentiated position against genAI tech as whole is about the stupidest thing we - as “the left”™️ - could be doing. The same is true for software engineers btw. (1/3)

[martin207@mastodon.social]

I love object oriented C (no not C++) but it is not sustainable to use it for most tasks. I enjoy writing python code, but for simple CLI tools Claude is much faster at it than me and delivers high quality whe steered correctly. Do I have a local setup with devstral running on solar power already? No, but I certainly plan to have that in 1 year from now. (2/3)

[martin207@mastodon.social]

Of course there’s way too much bullshit software being created and using genAI to do that l while consuming vast amounts of resources is a problem, but that doesn’t mean Anti-AI is a valid position. (3/3)

[loke@functional.cafe]

@mcc KeepassXC as well? I have a hard time as it is to trust a password manager. It seems I have to write my own?

[x2ero@ieji.de]

@csolisr @mcc @WideEyedCurious @Lingmops There is, with Linux AT least. Its called 'pass'. IT basically keeps the passwords as gpg encrypted Text files. IT can handle Otp.

[lhengstmengel@mastodon.nl]

@lunarloony @nina_kali_nina what I'm using is old school, open source, self hosted and ai free: https://www.passwordstore.org/

[debacle@framapiaf.org]

@mcc

A stritcly #AI free #Linux distribution would need to be an #AIfree #BSD or #Hurd distribution in the long run. AFAIK, the Linux #kernel itself might have some AI assisted code already. They have a strict disclosure policy, though:

https://kernel.org/doc/html//next/process/coding-assistants.html