u programmed this with claude?
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline nice try to dodge responsibility.
U elect a president which bombs schools and blame a computer instead.
Are you also blaming optics for shooting in the schools? whitewashing the murderers and even their weapons. -
u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline Claude's actually the one who refused to do that, unless I'm missing something? ChatGPT is the school-bomber.
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@jacqueline I don't think they used Claude for that, more like ChatGPT and not checking the phone book.
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline imh this is the same as saying "You are using the same pen as they did sign the Nuremberg laws with". People are accountable for these atrocities, AIs are just another (problematic) tool enabling bad people to do bad things more efficiently. Don't forget who is truly responsible here.
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline Not advocating for any of them, but Anthropic famously refused to work with the Department of War. I think you were thinking of OpenAI
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@jacqueline Not advocating for any of them, but Anthropic famously refused to work with the Department of War. I think you were thinking of OpenAI
@vixalientoots Anthropic were more than happy to work with the Department of War Crimes, they just didn't think that the models were ready to be used in fully autonomous weapons... *yet*.
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@jacqueline imh this is the same as saying "You are using the same pen as they did sign the Nuremberg laws with". People are accountable for these atrocities, AIs are just another (problematic) tool enabling bad people to do bad things more efficiently. Don't forget who is truly responsible here.
@vyllenjamnin @jacqueline they really aren't "just tools". This analogy is just wrong and extremely misleading.
They are services provided by an organization that have politics embedded into them.
A pen doesn't influence WHAT you're writing. An LLM's training process, which is controlled and managed by people with certain politics, very much influences what it's output will be.
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@vyllenjamnin @jacqueline they really aren't "just tools". This analogy is just wrong and extremely misleading.
They are services provided by an organization that have politics embedded into them.
A pen doesn't influence WHAT you're writing. An LLM's training process, which is controlled and managed by people with certain politics, very much influences what it's output will be.
RE: https://mastodon.social/@glyph/116220202738664759
@aesthr @vyllenjamnin @jacqueline Exactly right - see also this thread by @glyph 👇
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@vyllenjamnin @jacqueline they really aren't "just tools". This analogy is just wrong and extremely misleading.
They are services provided by an organization that have politics embedded into them.
A pen doesn't influence WHAT you're writing. An LLM's training process, which is controlled and managed by people with certain politics, very much influences what it's output will be.
@aesthr @vyllenjamnin @jacqueline plus (a) pens *do* influence how and what we write (think of how ball point pens made cursive writing obsolete) and have political/cultural meaning (e.g. trump's executive order sharpies); and (b) uhhh if someone consciously decided to write something with the pen they wrote the nuremberg laws with, it would *absolutely* shape the way i interpret what they wrote. all tools are political, especially writing tools
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@aesthr @vyllenjamnin @jacqueline plus (a) pens *do* influence how and what we write (think of how ball point pens made cursive writing obsolete) and have political/cultural meaning (e.g. trump's executive order sharpies); and (b) uhhh if someone consciously decided to write something with the pen they wrote the nuremberg laws with, it would *absolutely* shape the way i interpret what they wrote. all tools are political, especially writing tools
@aparrish you're really missing the point here
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@aparrish you're really missing the point here
@aesthr my intention was to agree with you and to support your underlying point...? even people who design pens (or other writing tools, from movable type to letraset on up the chain to word processors and llms) have political goals (implicit or explicit) that influence how people engage in communication with those tools
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@aesthr my intention was to agree with you and to support your underlying point...? even people who design pens (or other writing tools, from movable type to letraset on up the chain to word processors and llms) have political goals (implicit or explicit) that influence how people engage in communication with those tools
@aesthr (or maybe more clearly: the medium is the message, and making a clean distinction between the "form" and "content" of language is already conceding to the politics and logic of llm-pushers)
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline For anyone questioning if Claude was used for selecting targets during the US attack on Iran, including bombing a school, here are some sources showing that Claude was used (and is still in use):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthropic-claude-ai-iran-war-u-s/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/01/claude-anthropic-iran-strikes-us-military -
@vyllenjamnin @jacqueline they really aren't "just tools". This analogy is just wrong and extremely misleading.
They are services provided by an organization that have politics embedded into them.
A pen doesn't influence WHAT you're writing. An LLM's training process, which is controlled and managed by people with certain politics, very much influences what it's output will be.
@aesthr @jacqueline you are right! It is not just a tool, it is strongly influenced by corporate interests and built on hugely stolen work. Maybe I made my point badly. We should not forget that people are still responsible! Let's not shift focus away from whomever eventually signed off on this decision.
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@aesthr my intention was to agree with you and to support your underlying point...? even people who design pens (or other writing tools, from movable type to letraset on up the chain to word processors and llms) have political goals (implicit or explicit) that influence how people engage in communication with those tools
@aparrish my point is that people can use any pen to write any words they want.
No pen (not even that hypothetical one formerly used by Nazis) will prevent you from writing a certain sequence of words, or from writing about a certain topic. No pen is going to stop putting ink on the paper when your words conflict with some corporate content guideline, or if you write something illegal. No pen is going to write words that you didn't decide to write.
Generative "AI" does all of those things.
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
@jacqueline @afewbugs thanks im gonna start saying this.
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u programmed this with claude? the ai platform for bombing schools?
boost with CN: LLMs, war crimes
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@aparrish my point is that people can use any pen to write any words they want.
No pen (not even that hypothetical one formerly used by Nazis) will prevent you from writing a certain sequence of words, or from writing about a certain topic. No pen is going to stop putting ink on the paper when your words conflict with some corporate content guideline, or if you write something illegal. No pen is going to write words that you didn't decide to write.
Generative "AI" does all of those things.
@aesthr i agree that generative AI does all of those things. but that's part of the reason that the context of language (including the tools used to produce it) matters. two stretches of text might have the same words, but the knowledge that one stretch was written by/with llms changes how i interpret it. and pens DO limit what can be written with them—think of the difficulty of writing arabic calligraphy with a ballpoint, or how the mongolian script was dropped in favor of cyrillic in mongolia
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@aesthr i agree that generative AI does all of those things. but that's part of the reason that the context of language (including the tools used to produce it) matters. two stretches of text might have the same words, but the knowledge that one stretch was written by/with llms changes how i interpret it. and pens DO limit what can be written with them—think of the difficulty of writing arabic calligraphy with a ballpoint, or how the mongolian script was dropped in favor of cyrillic in mongolia
@aesthr (think also about how certain pens often used for graffiti are kept under lock and key in art stores and require 18+ ID. those pens make it possible to write in a certain way, and that writing is politicized to the point that the tool itself is regulated)
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@aesthr (think also about how certain pens often used for graffiti are kept under lock and key in art stores and require 18+ ID. those pens make it possible to write in a certain way, and that writing is politicized to the point that the tool itself is regulated)
@aparrish you’re still missing the point here about tools vs services, about means of production. and I get the feeling you’re just trying to be contrarian for its own sake
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