Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge One of my all time faves. No-one does psychotic quite like Jello. Early proponent of the wellness-fascism link.
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@quinn Oh god that Disposible Heroes one is EPIC. Somewhere I still have the Virus 100 CD (Kramer’s version of “Insight” is glorious too)
@ianbetteridge @quinn@social.circl.lu I am Governor Pete Wilson, you know / The baddest governor to ever grab the mic and go BOOM!
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge As you mentioned them, there was strong interest in incorporating yoga into the Third Reich ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Wilhelm_Hauer
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@ianbetteridge As you mentioned them, there was strong interest in incorporating yoga into the Third Reich ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Wilhelm_Hauer
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
Thank you for this extensive article. It does really fit together a few loose ends of annoyance that I have been gathering it seems.
Especially the connection between the yoga counter culture and esoteric cults merging with the desire for purity same as the (tech) fascists.
Already the third Reich used this connection. Esoteric cults and strengthen you people with shamanism and history etc.
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge this was *so good*. Reading it made me want to get drunk in my underpants. What will you do with it next? A TV special?
It chimes with "Goop and Infowars selling the same supplements", with the self-development material the kid imbibed from TikTok in their mid-teens, with older friends who went woo to antivax to worse
Implication that there's an offramp too - route Reform-joiners to organic farms?
Anyway, i'll bear it all in mind when i next start an esoteric cult
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge I don’t know, this could be that I didn’t get acquainted with her work until she was older and more overtly jaded, but I’ve always felt like I hear a deep irony and disappointment in Joni Mitchell’s “Woodstock” that the CSNY version seems designed to try to suppress, doing violence to the ambivalence of the original. The “we” she calls golden includes everyone, and if we’ve got to get “back to the garden” I don’t think she is claiming that the Woodstock festival itself was necessarily a successful move in that direction in her view
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
only in case it helps:
I'm probably missing something, but by my count the lyric fragment you quote has 6 words, not the "eight" you state?
Expanding "stardust" into two words splits the difference.
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only in case it helps:
I'm probably missing something, but by my count the lyric fragment you quote has 6 words, not the "eight" you state?
Expanding "stardust" into two words splits the difference.
@idlestate It is, indeed, an error (words I can do. Counting, less so :) )
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@ianbetteridge I don’t know, this could be that I didn’t get acquainted with her work until she was older and more overtly jaded, but I’ve always felt like I hear a deep irony and disappointment in Joni Mitchell’s “Woodstock” that the CSNY version seems designed to try to suppress, doing violence to the ambivalence of the original. The “we” she calls golden includes everyone, and if we’ve got to get “back to the garden” I don’t think she is claiming that the Woodstock festival itself was necessarily a successful move in that direction in her view
@tym It's a *really* good point and I’d love to write something exploring it. There's a lot of “the hippy dream is over" that emerges around that period - I'm thinking of the line from "Blue” ("acid booze and ass/needles guns and grass... lots of laughs”) and I think some of that starts with Woodstock (the event and the song)
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@ianbetteridge this was *so good*. Reading it made me want to get drunk in my underpants. What will you do with it next? A TV special?
It chimes with "Goop and Infowars selling the same supplements", with the self-development material the kid imbibed from TikTok in their mid-teens, with older friends who went woo to antivax to worse
Implication that there's an offramp too - route Reform-joiners to organic farms?
Anyway, i'll bear it all in mind when i next start an esoteric cult
@ultrazool I would join your cult in a heartbeat.
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge all of the most heinous deeds have been committed from a place of virtuousness.
Thank you for the post.
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
I relaxed quite a bit when I got to Fred Turner's name.
You say your piece is long, but it's comparatively a bite-size introduction to Turner which I hope will help more people see these connections.
I try to keep a copy of this interview with Turner on hand:
https://thedigradio.com/podcast/counterculture-to-cyberculture-with-fred-turner/
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
@ianbetteridge Excellent article, with a side benefit of giving me a California Über Alles earworm which is pretty good as earworms go.
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Zen fascists will control you: https://www.ianbetteridge.com/zen-fascist-wi/
In 1979, a punk band from San Francisco recorded a song about the Governor of California. It was a joke, mostly. Jerry Brown was a Democrat, a Buddhist, a man who dated Linda Ronstadt and discussed limits and simplicity at a moment when America was in no mood for either.
It's the suede-denim secret police
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@tym It's a *really* good point and I’d love to write something exploring it. There's a lot of “the hippy dream is over" that emerges around that period - I'm thinking of the line from "Blue” ("acid booze and ass/needles guns and grass... lots of laughs”) and I think some of that starts with Woodstock (the event and the song)
@ianbetteridge I think you are right that she went through a period of disillusionment that turns up in her songs. I also see her as having always just had that restless schizoid creative individual streak, where she can never wholeheartedly embrace a scene or a movement or even a musical style, keeps herself always a step apart, because as a matter of personality she’s more interested in questions than answers
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