@murdoc @gerrymcgovern @ReggieHere @chikl There is a difference between science and technology. Science is about finding out how the universe works. Technology is about doing and making things. The real problem is that out technosphere has become so immense that it crushes the biosphere. Therefore, the technosphere needs to shrink dramatically, no matter what we do. The humans of the future, if there are any, if Homo sapiens can escape extinction, will have to do with much less technology, but not with less science.