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  • jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.euundefined

    New Fediverse features that actually aren't new

    General Discussion mastodonnormativity mastodoncentrism cwfediversemeta nomadicidentity fediversegroups fediversemeta threadiverse cwlongpost
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    jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.euundefined
    Whenever someone announces to "bring" something "to the Fediverse", chances are that Friendica has actually had it since 2010, for five and a half years longer than Mastodon has been around.For example, just about everyone on Mastodon is fully convinced that Eugen Rochko has brought quote-posts to the Fediverse this year. That's because next to nobody on Mastodon knows that Friendica has been able to quote-post practically everything in the Fediverse, including Mastodon toots, for 15 years now.And if Friendica doesn't have it, chances are still that Hubzilla has it, and that Hubzilla has probably had it for longer than Mastodon has been around, too.For example, private messages that are actually private. Mastodon doesn't have them because the "privacy" of Mastodon DMs is only "guaranteed" by limiting whom a DM is sent to. Hubzilla does have them and has had them since 2012, since it was still named Red. How? Because Hubzilla also limits who is permitted to see a DM.Oh, and Hubzilla even offers optional encryption on top of that.Or how about server-independent identity? Everyone still waiting for Bluesky to finally be the pioneer who invents this and implements it for the first time? LOL! Once again, Hubzilla has had this since 2012. Not a vague concept, not an unstable proof-of-concept, but daily-driven by production-grade channels on production-grade servers. (streams) has it, too, inherited from Hubzilla through a whole number of forks. Forte has it, too, and Forte is the first and, so far, only Fediverse server software that uses ActivityPub for nomadic identity.Now I'm waiting for someone to announce that something will "bring" actual groups "to the Fediverse". A feature that was actually introduced to the Fediverse by StatusNet in 2008, and that's also available on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. Not to mention that the very principle of the Threadiverse (Lemmy, the remains of /kbin, Mbin, PieFed) is based on groups.This is what happens when you think that the feature set of the whole Fediverse is the feature set of Mastodon and maybe Pixelfed because that's all you know.Speaking of Mastodon: Just because it's being "brought to the Fediverse", doesn't mean it'll be adopted by Mastodon.#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #MastodonCentrism #MastodonNormativity #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #NomadicIdentity #StatusNet #Threadiverse #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #Groups #FediGroups #FediverseGroups
  • blog@shkspr.mobiundefined

    Now witness the power of this fully operational Fediverse!

    General Discussion activitypub bluesky fediverse mastodon statistics
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    Now witness the power of this fully operational Fediverse!https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/11/now-witness-the-power-of-this-fully-operational-fediverse/How can you measure the popularity of a social network site? Perhaps by counting the number of active accounts, or the quality of the discourse, or even how many people reply to your witty memes.Me? I prefer to look at how many people visit my blog from each site. It is an imperfect measure - and a vain one - but lets me know where I should be spending my time. No point posting on a network which is just bots talking to each other, right?Earlier this year I built a stats-counter for my blog. Every time someone clicks from a website which links to my blog, it records that visit in a database. I get to see which blog posts are doing numbers, and where those numbers came from.Until fairly recently, the Mastodon social network didn't send referer details. I thought that reduced the visibility of the network and lobbied for it to change. As various Mastodon servers upgrade, and admins opt-in, it is becoming more apparent just how much traffic originates from the Fediverse.Over the last few weeks, here's how many people have clicked from BlueSky and Mastodon to one of my blog posts.TotalSource1,607bsky.app752mastodon.socialAt first glance, it doesn't look good for our elephantine friends, does it? The butterfly sends over twice the traffic. Game over!But, of course, while Mastodon.social is the biggest instance - it is far from the only one. What happens if we slide down the long tail? Here's all the Mastodon-ish instances which sent me over 10 clicks.TotalSource193phanpy.social120 android-app://org.joinmastodon.android/106infosec.exchange62mas.to59mstdn.social55social.vivaldi.net49wandering.shop48fosstodon.org33mathstodon.xyz27mastodon.online26mastodon.scot24app.wafrn.net19indieweb.social18social.lol17tech.lgbt17toot.wales16en.osm.town16feditrends.com14mstdn.ca14piefed.social12wetdry.world11c.im11mastodon.nl51 Sites sending < 10 clicksAh! Add them all up and you get a grand total of 1,773 visitors from Mastodon-powered sites. That's more than BlueSky.Now, there are some obvious caveats to the data:I have a smaller follower count on BlueSky than I do on Mastodon.My posts may appeal more to one demographic than another.People may have strict privacy controls which suppress the true volume of visitors.There's no way to measure how long someone spends reading my posts.RSS and newsletter visitors aren't counted.Clicks from apps may not always show a referer.Some people may be on multiple services.Fediverse users can follow the post directly, so don't need to visit the site to read it.And yet… no matter how you slice it, Fediverse servers are sending as much traffic as BlueSky!I think this is brilliant. Web services should be able to scale from small to big - and each ActivityPub-powered site helps power the open Internet.Just for completeness, this is how Reddit, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, and Lemmy do over the same period:TotalSource1,158reddit.com585 android-app://com.reddit.frontpage/76facebook.com76https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/56https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/52youtube.com41t.co38https://old.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1nsw7f4/til_in_mongolia_instead_of_a_street_address_a/31linkedin.com27 android-app://io.syncapps.lemmy_sync/27https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1nsw7f4/til_in_mongolia_instead_of_a_street_address_a/22https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1n96ftn/40_years_later_are_bentleys_programming_pearls/22lemmy.ca17 android-app://com.linkedin.android/16lemmy.dbzer0.com14feddit.org11https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1n96ftn/40_years_later_are_bentleys_programming_pearls/10discuss.tchncs.de10l.instagram.com8lemmy.blahaj.zone6https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/1m2l84b/considering_making_the_switch_does_google_pay/6reddthat.comIf you add up all the Lemmy instances, they send about as much traffic as Facebook and LinkedIn combined. That's not a huge surprise - those platforms hate anyone clicking away to the wider web.Twitter is basically the Dead Internet. I'm no longer on there, but I do occasionally search it to see who is sharing my posts. The popular posts I write get shared a lot - sometimes by accounts with huge followers - yet there are no comments or retweets and barely and clicks.I don't do Instagram or Threads, and that might be reflected in their low numbers. But I'm not active on YouTube either - yet people there occasionally link back to me.Final ThoughtsFirstly, my stats only represent my site. Your site might be very different.Secondly, I've ignored search engine traffic, big blogs, newsletters, and other sources.Thirdly, and most importantly, this isn't a competition! The desire for a "winner-takes-all" service is dangerous and disturbing. An ecosystem is at its most vibrant when there are multiple participants each thriving in their own niche.I want a thousand sites, running a hundred different software stacks, some of which only serve a dozen people, or even a lone participant.Diversity is strength.#activitypub #bluesky #fediverse #mastodon #statistics
  • linux@rebel.arundefined

    Since the influx of Blue Sky and Twitter users, Mastodon Dot Social had unfortunately — but temporarily — experienced a few Nazi accounts, all of which have since been removed.

    Fediverso fediverse activitypub mastodon bluesky twitter nazis
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    linux@rebel.arundefined
    Since the influx of Blue Sky and Twitter users, Mastodon Dot Social had unfortunately — but temporarily — experienced a few Nazi accounts, all of which have since been removed. However, a few individuals are now wrongfully claiming that the Fediverse is no different, simply because a few bad individuals managed to make it here. What they’re choosing to ignore is the key difference: those accounts were dealt with and rightfully removed. The fact that they weren’t caught immediately does not support the implications being made. 🙄Haters are going to hate. 🤷#Fediverse #ActivityPub #Mastodon #BlueSky #Twitter #Nazis
  • xochocotoons@mastodon.socialundefined

    Guys, im switching from #Bluesky to #Mastadon.

    Uncategorized bluesky mastadon flowers digimon aztec furry
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    xochocotoons@mastodon.socialundefined
    Guys, im switching from #Bluesky to #Mastadon. im permanently here now. Anyone you recommend to follow? tags i follow are #flowers #digimon #aztec and #furry