Other projects we work on include old-school social networks relaunched with Fediverse software.
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Other projects we work on include old-school social networks relaunched with Fediverse software. Our projects include #activitypub versions of Avatars United, Heello, Fotolog, and Metacafe.
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Other projects we work on include old-school social networks relaunched with Fediverse software. Our projects include #activitypub versions of Avatars United, Heello, Fotolog, and Metacafe.
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@pixelschubsi @tris Yes, agreed. Tremendous value in reusing identities and login credentials. Big skepticism with regards to using AP as a protocol. One can probably kinda make it work… But why? What’s the benefit?
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@daniel @tris I'm also genuinely surprised that people believe that ActivityPub, a protocol even named after its purpose, to publish activities, is a good protocol to pursue private instant messaging. The goals of those two couldn't be more detrimental.
I do see a purpose of being able to reuse your "ActivityPub identities", which actually are just WebFinger identities. Maybe someone should specify how to discover XMPP accounts via WebFinger and push that as a solution for AP messaging?
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@tris Soatak is an expert in cryptography. I’m not. I’m more than happy to stand on the shoulder of giants when it comes to E2EE. That’s why we used the Signal Protocol 10+ years ago for #OMEMO and are now looking towards #MLS. However, good, interoperable protocol design is so much more than just E2EE. And maybe I've learned a thing or two about protocol design in my career that they don’t necessarily know.
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@tris there are three actively developed protocols for federated instant messaging (XMPP, Matrix, Deltachat). At least one of them is very open to new developers and new ideas and has a structure in place to collaboratively work on those ideas and bring various stake holders together. With no disrespect to that individual I don't see why there needs to be a forth protocol loosely based on ActivityPub.
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@daniel Ah, fair, their work for E2EE Fedi looks interesting: https://github.com/fedi-e2ee/public-key-directory-specification
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@tris two things: I already said in my follow up post that if someone wants to build their own clients on top of XMPP and prefers MLS over OMEMO, the XMPP community is very open to that. A protocol is much more than just the encryption. They would still benefit from all the other things XMPP has solved.
A lot of what's in that blog post is ill-informed and bordering on disinformation and fear mongering.
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@daniel Someone have to solve https://soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against-xmppomemo/ issues first
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@jansenspott @mthie ich will mich nicht aus der Affäre ziehen, aber alles was wir mit dem Plugin machen ist: wir schicken eine Überschrift, eine summary, den content mit inline images und die Images nochmal als attachment. Dadurch kann jedes empfangende Netzwerk entscheiden was es am besten anzeigen. Ich schau mir das aber gerne im neuen Jahr nochmal an. Vielleicht finden wir ja mit den gotosocial devs eine schöne Lösung!
