banging on the same nailhead again.
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banging on the same nailhead again. just gonna say that while i understand a lot of people don't do this out of outright malice, i find it very side-eye worthy how so many people on here are very comfortable adopting aesthetics and aligning themselves with a regime that called itself socialist and yet has killed, exploited and assimilated kazakh people.
i talk about this and there's always at least one person who is mad at me about it
@mynameistillian oh yeah the "workers and farmers government" that killed and imprisoned striking workers and revolting farmers. fuck that shit. hammer and sickle never was a symbol of liberation and never will be.
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also the famine that killed 1.5 million people in kazakhstan is also entirely on them. the collectivization efforts were a complete disaster because the soviet government, in their russianness and whiteness (of course, lol), failed to see that the way that kazakh people lived back then was different to the european conception of marxist social relations. they didn't understand it and just fucked it all up
anyway, i think i hammered my point on enough. a revolution that is blind to culture, views mother earth as just a resource depot, and places the need to control over what makes people free is not gonna liberate us
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@mynameistillian@plush.city well it's a symbol of communism/socialism. don't get me wrong i too think it's cringe but i get the intent
@JuxGD @mynameistillian no it's fucking not. it is explicitly a bolshevist symbol. it was designed for the bolshevist movement.
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@JuxGD @mynameistillian no it's fucking not. it is explicitly a bolshevist symbol. it was designed for the bolshevist movement.
@little_foxtoy@bark.lgbt @mynameistillian@plush.city never said it was intended to be a symbol for socialism/communism but like that's what people use it for
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like they literally drained Aral Sea due to overindustrialisation and forcibly shuffled people around, some of which ended up in kazakhstan (this is also the reason why we have such a big koryo-saram diaspora, they just yeeted everyone to us), beginning from stalin onwards there were politics of assimilationism of central asian people into russian culture and language, i mean, fuck, they even tested nukes on our soil
@mynameistillian just seeing a somewhat recent video about the nuclear history in Khazakstan was chilling and just disgusting to see what became of it, nevermind hearing how bad it was during
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@little_foxtoy@bark.lgbt @mynameistillian@plush.city never said it was intended to be a symbol for socialism/communism but like that's what people use it for
@JuxGD @mynameistillian yeah ok maybe that's what people use it for, but that doesn't make it less true. it is a specifically bolshevist symbol. if someone uses it I will have to assume they aren't an ally. as an anarchist I just don't trust people that put themselves in the tradition of those who killed those I would have considered my comrades.
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@JuxGD @mynameistillian yeah ok maybe that's what people use it for, but that doesn't make it less true. it is a specifically bolshevist symbol. if someone uses it I will have to assume they aren't an ally. as an anarchist I just don't trust people that put themselves in the tradition of those who killed those I would have considered my comrades.
@little_foxtoy@bark.lgbt @mynameistillian@plush.city i agree! (not an anarchist though i think)
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banging on the same nailhead again. just gonna say that while i understand a lot of people don't do this out of outright malice, i find it very side-eye worthy how so many people on here are very comfortable adopting aesthetics and aligning themselves with a regime that called itself socialist and yet has killed, exploited and assimilated kazakh people.
i talk about this and there's always at least one person who is mad at me about it
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like they literally drained Aral Sea due to overindustrialisation and forcibly shuffled people around, some of which ended up in kazakhstan (this is also the reason why we have such a big koryo-saram diaspora, they just yeeted everyone to us), beginning from stalin onwards there were politics of assimilationism of central asian people into russian culture and language, i mean, fuck, they even tested nukes on our soil
@mynameistillian the largest nukes, and the evidence is still visible.
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just because someone cites marx instead of lincoln when they're doing it doesn't mean the treatment suddenly becomes praxis
@mynameistillian something I've learned today: "basing your society on citing marx is also a dominion" 🙃
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banging on the same nailhead again. just gonna say that while i understand a lot of people don't do this out of outright malice, i find it very side-eye worthy how so many people on here are very comfortable adopting aesthetics and aligning themselves with a regime that called itself socialist and yet has killed, exploited and assimilated kazakh people.
i talk about this and there's always at least one person who is mad at me about it
@mynameistillian this whole thread is great. Just thought I'd drop this here as well, filing my complaint alongside yours:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/some-jews-a-jewish-anarchist-refutation-of-the-hammer-and-sickle -
@mynameistillian oh yeah the "workers and farmers government" that killed and imprisoned striking workers and revolting farmers. fuck that shit. hammer and sickle never was a symbol of liberation and never will be.
@little_foxtoy @mynameistillian That's because they weren't the real workers! You know in communism, workers control the means of production, which means the bureaucrats are the actual workers! /s
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@JuxGD i know, but i really wish people rather came up and used something else. just too much bad blood. not to mention how many of them happily put mao or stalin images in their headers or pfps. just eugh
@mynameistillian @JuxGD While the modern day Communist Party USA is a joke, I like its gear and hammer emblem. It's not like we use sickles for farming these days.
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