Smarter and more transparent food ecosystem.

[ki@chaos.social]

@witchescauldron @gsymon @EUCommission
I'd say, labeling something as "AI" doesn't necessarily mean it's actively funneling money towards LLM bullshit... but we've seen the bullshit EU states are willing to do for the sake of corruption

[witchescauldron@kolektiva.social]

@ki @gsymon @EUCommission

Someone would need to click some links to see ;)

[rachelthornsub@famichiki.jp]

@EUCommission
This is embarrassing. Read the room. Not many people on the Fediverse are going to be impressed by "AI powered." On the contrary, by putting LLMs into the mix, you guarantee that the results will be unreliable, as well as damaging to the environment.

[ki@chaos.social]

@witchescauldron @gsymon @EUCommission
from all that I can find, this tool is primarily "AI" as in "statistical analysis", one of the many past use cases where this buzzword label used to be applied. But the intention for the marketing is clear: "AI" is a popular bullshit buzzword, so let's ride the hype wave. This use case isn't much less shitty than your usual slop machines though

[scalonnec@pouet.chapril.org]

@EUCommission Hopefully we had to wait the IA-God to save us from laxative food. We're blessed now ! I guess humans were not sapiens enough to do this.

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@witchescauldron @ki @EUCommission

So you don't actually know about 'funding'? You're just assuming/guessing?

[ki@chaos.social]

@witchescauldron @gsymon @EUCommission
and don't get me wrong, statistical analysis can be powerful and a great tool in research and for low-risk and redundant applications, but food safety is NOT low-risk!

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

The AI seems like a good use case to me, because trying to follow this stuff manually, is massively complex and requires huge levels of policing. Sort of like the major problem of uncovering the money-launderers. Police don't have the funds to spend the time following the money.

[witchescauldron@kolektiva.social]

@gsymon @ki @EUCommission

The #EU account ONLY pushes stuff they fund... but can't be bothered to click through to check was hoping to crowed source that info as a part of composting.

If we don't get a group of people to actively compost this #techshit we are not getting anywhere.

I leave space in all my work, so people can fill it #KISS

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission
It's an EU project. It's literally commissioned by the EU. It's EU-funded.

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

"It's an EU project. It's literally commissioned by the EU. It's EU-funded."

Well... that's what I thought, which is why I asked who was supposedly the corrupt beneficiary?

[janantos@f.cz]

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission AI does not equal LLM ;-)

[witchescauldron@kolektiva.social]

@ki @gsymon @EUCommission

Good link clicking, building a team, now we need a codebase to holed the team together #OMN

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission
"massively complex" is a good keyword, because statistics is massively complex and trusting a black box that is essentially an accuracy slot machine can easily be lethal. People can't easily comprehend statistics, which makes education on "AI slop" so difficult. Food inspections, however, are a manual process that you can trust. Your statistics shift towards how regular these inspections should be, which has entirely different implications.

[janantos@f.cz]

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission we use AI in hospitals here in Estonia and it is well accepted by medical staff. https://news.err.ee/1609953731/doctors-artificial-intelligence-already-saving-lives-in-estonia

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

That's not how it's going to work. It's not based on statistics. It's based on 'following the food':

"By monitoring the agri-food supply chain in real-time, it will:

🚫 Spot risks with improved screening accuracy
🦠 Track shipments in seconds to stop foodborne disease outbreaks
🛒 Remove non-compliant products from the market faster"

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission

> "not based on statistics"

what do you think "AI-powered" implies?

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

Good question.

I imagine that it will enable dealing with huge amounts of information.

Perhaps it will apply 'probability' in terms of where something is originating and where it's going and how it's getting there?

[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@thibaultmol @EUCommission I wonder though how AI comes into play here. From the video it looks like a problem that would allow for an exact solution.
Is the search space so big that an analytic solution is no longer feasible?

[statsguy@mas.to]

@EUCommission AI powered? Seriously? For *safety* purposes?

Forgive me if I don't feel safer.