Really interesting things afoot in social media.

[doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se]

@grumpydad @mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick There’s no money involved in that

[grumpydad@infosec.exchange]

@doktorzjivago @mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick No. But there are fewer right wing fascists here.

[mike@thecanadian.social]

@boris @quillmatiq @mmasnick I'm not really "yelling" at you as voicing my misgivings about the atmosphere. I have no interest in participating in the AT community and I think I've already outlined my reasons why. Basically the fediverse checks most of my boxes while the atmosphere does not so that's where I'm directing my effort. I was merely trying g to explain why.

[boris@cosocial.ca]

@mike conflating Bluesky-the-company and the ATProto community are not great. “Yelling”

It’s like as if I constantly shared the belief that Mastodon GMBH makes all decisions.

It’s wrong, and doesn’t respect the work of everyone that helps build the Fediverse.

I’d ask you to not do this. You don’t have to join, but spreading misinformation doesn’t help anyone.

[humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world]

@mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick This is in technical terms tone deaf and a pile of shite

[marc@keil.rocks]

@mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick @grumpydad Somebody else suggested, that the EU would rather prefer a single point of responsibility. Too bad…

[mcwabbit@tenforward.social]

@mastodonmigration

[patterfloof@meow.social]

@mastodonmigration @quillmatiq @mmasnick slightly more interested as BS dislikes it. Still not enough to support

[mike@thecanadian.social]

@boris I didn't like the characterization that I was somehow being hysterical, I thought my comments reflected what a great many perceive to be true. So to put those fears to bed if BlueSky went away tommorow would all of the applications built on AT still be able to function and federate? Would devepment on the protocol continue independently?

[boris@cosocial.ca]

@mike would email keep working if Gmail shutdown?

Tight coupling of accounts to domain names would mean a lot of people would lose their email identifier.

Those that have their own domains would repoint to a new host.

It would be really tough for a lot of people but yes email would continue.

Same for ATProto.

[mike@thecanadian.social]

@boris If Mastodon.social goes away tommorow, thecanadian.social will still be able to function as will Pixelfed, Loops, etc..

I think you've answered my question.

[quillmatiq@mastodon.social]

@mike If Bluesky went away tomorrow, Blacksky will still be able to function, as will Leaflet, Spark, Stream Place, etc.

Even Bridgy Fed and Bounce will continue to function, we'd just have to swap out the relay for Bridgy Fed from Bluesky to Blacksky, Constellation, or one of the other options out there.

@boris

[mike@thecanadian.social]

@quillmatiq @boris Thank you. That's the clear answer I needed. Progress is being made to actual independent federation. And I think you mentioned previously that they can all post to each other?

[quillmatiq@mastodon.social]

@mike Yes, but a caveat: microblogging apps like Bluesky and Blacksky are interoperating directly over the same lexicon.

Leaflet and blogging platforms are interoperating over one that makes sense for blogging (the one I mentioned earlier, standard.site), but post-to and post-back to microblogging sites (think the Note type vs Article type in ActivityPub - they work together, but an Article can be a link here and Notes can flow back to the blog).

So on and so forth for other lexicons.

@boris