i think it's funny when people say "mastodon has moderation issues too!"'nof course it does.
-
i think it's funny when people say "mastodon has moderation issues too!"
of course it does. it's millions of real, messy humans interacting over multiple communities with intersecting and often contradictory rules, moderated by real, messy humans with feelings and biases. of course it has moderation issues, it's inescapable when you put millions of people together
the thing that makes fedi (imo) better is that here you get to at least *choose* the messy humans making the decisions for you
-
undefined Oblomov ha condiviso questa discussione
undefined Evan Prodromou ha condiviso questa discussione
-
i think it's funny when people say "mastodon has moderation issues too!"
of course it does. it's millions of real, messy humans interacting over multiple communities with intersecting and often contradictory rules, moderated by real, messy humans with feelings and biases. of course it has moderation issues, it's inescapable when you put millions of people together
the thing that makes fedi (imo) better is that here you get to at least *choose* the messy humans making the decisions for you
@eniko I think one thing that's desirable in siloed networks which is almost impossible in the Fediverse is getting someone kicked off the network. The best we can do right now is isolate someone's server with defederation, so they can't do as much damage. It's probably enough, but it lacks the finality of seeing someone's account shut down by a central authority. I think the trade-off is probably worth it, though.
-
@eniko I think one thing that's desirable in siloed networks which is almost impossible in the Fediverse is getting someone kicked off the network. The best we can do right now is isolate someone's server with defederation, so they can't do as much damage. It's probably enough, but it lacks the finality of seeing someone's account shut down by a central authority. I think the trade-off is probably worth it, though.
-
-
It’s worth asking whether a) it’s desirable for such “definitive” results to be available; and b) whether “definitive” is even possible within the scope of technical design decisions.
Seeing Trump getting unbanned from various places seems to point to “no” as an answer.
-
@eniko I think one thing that's desirable in siloed networks which is almost impossible in the Fediverse is getting someone kicked off the network. The best we can do right now is isolate someone's server with defederation, so they can't do as much damage. It's probably enough, but it lacks the finality of seeing someone's account shut down by a central authority. I think the trade-off is probably worth it, though.
-
@slothrop @eniko yeah, I think the term I'm looking for is "deplatforming". With coordination, you can cut down pretty hard on someone's practical reach, but actually deplatforming someone on the Fediverse requires chasing them from server to server until they either give up or get sufficient control of their platform that they can't be dislodged.
-
@slothrop @eniko yeah, I think the term I'm looking for is "deplatforming". With coordination, you can cut down pretty hard on someone's practical reach, but actually deplatforming someone on the Fediverse requires chasing them from server to server until they either give up or get sufficient control of their platform that they can't be dislodged.
-
@slothrop @eniko I think one big issue on Bluesky has been that company's refusal to deplatform Jesse Singal under pressure from its users. I don't think anyone should promise a more compliant management team on the Fediverse, since that team doesn't exist. If new arrivals understand how deplatforming works here, to the extent that it does, and they are ok with it, that's great.
Feed RSS
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
-
@cbcnews @montreal-cbcnews good.
-
hi mastodon, who is the CEO of antifa? asking for a friend.
-
Par🇮🇹le n°1372 3/6
#parle⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛
🟩⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
-
-
@j12t thanks for the hard work you do!
-
@trwnh have you had a look at the ActivityPub API task force user stories?
-
-
@slothrop @eniko I think one big issue on Bluesky has been that company's refusal to deplatform Jesse Singal under pressure from its users. I don't think anyone should promise a more compliant management team on the Fediverse, since that team doesn't exist. If new arrivals understand how deplatforming works here, to the extent that it does, and they are ok with it, that's great.
