@pendell consensus and community input are important for foundational systems (eg display, audio, network, date time, etc) so that essential functionality is stable and implemented well enough that the rest of the ecosystem can be built on it, but it's not really important whether or not Crazy Bob's Chronometer Bauble fits into some grand brand vision
@pendell I disagree, this was a problem that was created by trying to have a unified vision (it's a gnome app using a gnome service and it works fine if you use gnome but i don't use gnome), and if it was designed to function well stand-alone it wouldn't have had this problem and wouldn't have required any broader coordination with anyone else's vision beyond the passive agreement that comes from using standard interfaces
@aeva the dice roll in the middle of drowning suggests that it was mere luck that we reached an outcome where you could not tell if the gnome clock was worse. it could have just as well gone the other way, and in fact, had you been slightly more informed, you would have definitely obliterated my little piece of driftwood.
@aeva "is he making fun of drowning people, what the hell?" no wait, it is metaphorical, expressing that i love pointless nerd debates but am simultaneously aware of how exhausted everyone is of them and so i tried to paint a picture that serves both sides equally badly