State of the Iceshrimp, December, 2025
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How unfinished is Iceshrimp.NET? This unfinished:
Iceshrimp.NET appears to have no support for conversations. At all. I'm not just saying it has no support for enclosed conversations like on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Facebook and every last blog out there, not to mention FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".
I'm saying it has no concept of threads. It has no concept whatsoever of a message having a parent or children in a thread.
All it seems to know is stand-alone messages. Iceshrimp.NET only shows you single messages, and it gives you no way at all to access even only what these messages reply to. This is even worse than Mastodon, and that has to say something.
Also, Iceshrimp.NET seems to use some exotic, home-brew message format that must have little to do with the W3C ActivityPub standard, even taking FEPs into consideration. It's impossible to use Hubzilla's search to import an Iceshrimp.NET message onto your stream.
And: iceshrimp.net redirects to the Iceshrimp.NET code repository. Which, in turn, contains a link to an iceshrimp.net website at the top. Another to-do that isn't even on any to-do list. Yeah, I know that (streams) and Forte have no websites either, but Mike doesn't pretend they have websites, and especially (streams) has very good reasons not to have an official website.
Let's just hope that it has overcome the *key-inherent federation issues by having been rewritten.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Iceshrimp.NET #IceshrimpNET -
How unfinished is Iceshrimp.NET? This unfinished:
Iceshrimp.NET appears to have no support for conversations. At all. I'm not just saying it has no support for enclosed conversations like on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Facebook and every last blog out there, not to mention FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".
I'm saying it has no concept of threads. It has no concept whatsoever of a message having a parent or children in a thread.
All it seems to know is stand-alone messages. Iceshrimp.NET only shows you single messages, and it gives you no way at all to access even only what these messages reply to. This is even worse than Mastodon, and that has to say something.
Also, Iceshrimp.NET seems to use some exotic, home-brew message format that must have little to do with the W3C ActivityPub standard, even taking FEPs into consideration. It's impossible to use Hubzilla's search to import an Iceshrimp.NET message onto your stream.
And: iceshrimp.net redirects to the Iceshrimp.NET code repository. Which, in turn, contains a link to an iceshrimp.net website at the top. Another to-do that isn't even on any to-do list. Yeah, I know that (streams) and Forte have no websites either, but Mike doesn't pretend they have websites, and especially (streams) has very good reasons not to have an official website.
Let's just hope that it has overcome the *key-inherent federation issues by having been rewritten.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Iceshrimp.NET #IceshrimpNET@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu Iceshrimp.NET lets you access reply-tos if
a: you have an account on the server
b: the server uses a proper frontend, like that port of the pleroma frontend someone made
c: you use a client that allows pointing to an arbitrary server's mastodon compliant API (e.g. Phanpy) -
@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu Iceshrimp.NET lets you access reply-tos if
a: you have an account on the server
b: the server uses a proper frontend, like that port of the pleroma frontend someone made
c: you use a client that allows pointing to an arbitrary server's mastodon compliant API (e.g. Phanpy)@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu please look at this demonstration of option C:
post on the iceshrimp server: https://not-brain.d.on-t.work/notes/af6ed8e0xrsfrv0p
post as seen through phanpy: https://phanpy.social/#/not-brain.d.on-t.work/s/af6ed8e0xrsfrv0p?view=full -
@z6Mki5zHriQp1MrWfAtMNN2WZC43uRZMquT68U4B6dptNcY1/actor" rel="nofollow noopener">Johannes Oschlies Das, was man da mit YH installieren kann, ist aber nicht die .NET-Version, sondern die alte Firefish-Fork-Version aus dem Dezember 2023.
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How unfinished is Iceshrimp.NET? This unfinished:
Iceshrimp.NET appears to have no support for conversations. At all. I'm not just saying it has no support for enclosed conversations like on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Facebook and every last blog out there, not to mention FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".
I'm saying it has no concept of threads. It has no concept whatsoever of a message having a parent or children in a thread.
All it seems to know is stand-alone messages. Iceshrimp.NET only shows you single messages, and it gives you no way at all to access even only what these messages reply to. This is even worse than Mastodon, and that has to say something.
Also, Iceshrimp.NET seems to use some exotic, home-brew message format that must have little to do with the W3C ActivityPub standard, even taking FEPs into consideration. It's impossible to use Hubzilla's search to import an Iceshrimp.NET message onto your stream.
And: iceshrimp.net redirects to the Iceshrimp.NET code repository. Which, in turn, contains a link to an iceshrimp.net website at the top. Another to-do that isn't even on any to-do list. Yeah, I know that (streams) and Forte have no websites either, but Mike doesn't pretend they have websites, and especially (streams) has very good reasons not to have an official website.
Let's just hope that it has overcome the *key-inherent federation issues by having been rewritten.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Iceshrimp.NET #IceshrimpNET -
How unfinished is Iceshrimp.NET? This unfinished:
Iceshrimp.NET appears to have no support for conversations. At all. I'm not just saying it has no support for enclosed conversations like on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Facebook and every last blog out there, not to mention FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".
I'm saying it has no concept of threads. It has no concept whatsoever of a message having a parent or children in a thread.
All it seems to know is stand-alone messages. Iceshrimp.NET only shows you single messages, and it gives you no way at all to access even only what these messages reply to. This is even worse than Mastodon, and that has to say something.
Also, Iceshrimp.NET seems to use some exotic, home-brew message format that must have little to do with the W3C ActivityPub standard, even taking FEPs into consideration. It's impossible to use Hubzilla's search to import an Iceshrimp.NET message onto your stream.
And: iceshrimp.net redirects to the Iceshrimp.NET code repository. Which, in turn, contains a link to an iceshrimp.net website at the top. Another to-do that isn't even on any to-do list. Yeah, I know that (streams) and Forte have no websites either, but Mike doesn't pretend they have websites, and especially (streams) has very good reasons not to have an official website.
Let's just hope that it has overcome the *key-inherent federation issues by having been rewritten.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Iceshrimp.NET #IceshrimpNET -
wäre ja schön, wenn es die neue Version vlt. auch einmal über yunohost gäbe, zum mal ausprobieren.@z6Mki5zHriQp1MrWfAtMNN2WZC43uRZMquT68U4B6dptNcY1/actor" rel="nofollow noopener">Johannes Oschlies Hätte Dir jetzt am liebsten von Iceshrimp.NET geschrieben, wenn denn Dein Forte-Kanal dort zu finden wäre. Da versagt der Dienst aber.
Registrierungen erlaubt z.B. #^https://shrimp.social/ (wo ich einen Test-Account habe@DerPepe@shrimp.social).
Bis jetzt kaum wirklich nutzbar... nach meinem Empfinden. -
How unfinished is Iceshrimp.NET? This unfinished:
Iceshrimp.NET appears to have no support for conversations. At all. I'm not just saying it has no support for enclosed conversations like on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte, Facebook and every last blog out there, not to mention FEP-171b "Conversation Containers".
I'm saying it has no concept of threads. It has no concept whatsoever of a message having a parent or children in a thread.
All it seems to know is stand-alone messages. Iceshrimp.NET only shows you single messages, and it gives you no way at all to access even only what these messages reply to. This is even worse than Mastodon, and that has to say something.
Also, Iceshrimp.NET seems to use some exotic, home-brew message format that must have little to do with the W3C ActivityPub standard, even taking FEPs into consideration. It's impossible to use Hubzilla's search to import an Iceshrimp.NET message onto your stream.
And: iceshrimp.net redirects to the Iceshrimp.NET code repository. Which, in turn, contains a link to an iceshrimp.net website at the top. Another to-do that isn't even on any to-do list. Yeah, I know that (streams) and Forte have no websites either, but Mike doesn't pretend they have websites, and especially (streams) has very good reasons not to have an official website.
Let's just hope that it has overcome the *key-inherent federation issues by having been rewritten.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Iceshrimp.NET #IceshrimpNET
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@visionaire You can see for yourself, the links are both in the post.
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@transicorn What access rights / permissions have you set for your post?
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@julian ah that is for the context, yeah maybe he reached his burnout point and I am part of team *that fediverse*
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@fu My profile says "Member since: 2015-01-26 22:56:44" 😱
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@liaizon@social.wake.st he responded to me via DM when I was talking about context relocation and removal FEPs. He finished off his reply with "I'm not part of your fediverse any more.", so I take it as a sign he's taking a break at minimum.
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I just learned that #Libranet.de is the longest running #ActivityPub server on the 'verse.
source: fediverse.observer/list
note: above says we've been here ~9 year. Per Wikipedia AP has only existed 7 years, and friendica only added support 6 years ago. Friendica first launched 15 years ago. I also see many other #Friendica instances showing the same 105 month old age, so this may have been when the website first added support, originally it was called poduptime and only included Diaspora* pods.
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@savetoleen I understand how incredibly hard it is in your situation there. and I wouldn't want people to think your account isn't legitimate. if you see someone make a post about something and your reply is unrelated, your gonna get a lot of people blocking you or thinking you are spam, even if otherwise they might be supportive of your cause. I know that sounds harsh but there has been a large amount of people here seeking help so sadly there is much competition for peoples donations
