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New Fediverse features that actually aren't new

  • Whenever someone announces to "bring" something "to the Fediverse", chances are that Friendica has actually had it since 2010, for five and a half years longer than Mastodon has been around.

    For example, just about everyone on Mastodon is fully convinced that Eugen Rochko has brought quote-posts to the Fediverse this year. That's because next to nobody on Mastodon knows that Friendica has been able to quote-post practically everything in the Fediverse, including Mastodon toots, for 15 years now.

    And if Friendica doesn't have it, chances are still that Hubzilla has it, and that Hubzilla has probably had it for longer than Mastodon has been around, too.

    For example, private messages that are actually private. Mastodon doesn't have them because the "privacy" of Mastodon DMs is only "guaranteed" by limiting whom a DM is sent to. Hubzilla does have them and has had them since 2012, since it was still named Red. How? Because Hubzilla also limits who is permitted to see a DM.

    Oh, and Hubzilla even offers optional encryption on top of that.

    Or how about server-independent identity? Everyone still waiting for Bluesky to finally be the pioneer who invents this and implements it for the first time? LOL! Once again, Hubzilla has had this since 2012. Not a vague concept, not an unstable proof-of-concept, but daily-driven by production-grade channels on production-grade servers. (streams) has it, too, inherited from Hubzilla through a whole number of forks. Forte has it, too, and Forte is the first and, so far, only Fediverse server software that uses ActivityPub for nomadic identity.

    Now I'm waiting for someone to announce that something will "bring" actual groups "to the Fediverse". A feature that was actually introduced to the Fediverse by StatusNet in 2008, and that's also available on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. Not to mention that the very principle of the Threadiverse (Lemmy, the remains of /kbin, Mbin, PieFed) is based on groups.

    This is what happens when you think that the feature set of the whole Fediverse is the feature set of Mastodon and maybe Pixelfed because that's all you know.

    Speaking of Mastodon: Just because it's being "brought to the Fediverse", doesn't mean it'll be adopted by Mastodon.

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    @trwnh@mastodon.social oooh that's interesting. I actually commented on the former. But I am realizing now that NodeBB actually explicitly addresses quite a few people because we try to keep everybody in the loop. Responding to a topic with hundreds of posts could mean a Note object with hundreds of individual users addressed in cc. Perhaps it's wiser to not assume "addressed? generate notification.", and instead have configurable notifications based on thread/context participation.
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    @julian i'd say the confusion is primarily that we've shifted topic around several different things and i'm still not sure which is the intended topic of the discussion :x- deleting posts that are in a thread- removing posts from a thread- implications for downstream posts in a thread when some ancestor in the reply chain is deleted/removed- deleting a thread that is in a forum- removing a thread from a forum- moving a thread to the "uncategorized" forum- ...?
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    What's the secret to Rimu's speed? Piefed is young, so any accumulated technical debt doesn't interfere with new functionality... Yet... Sorry rimu@piefed.social, that time will come for you 😂
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    In a nutshell, it's because you don't have to build the entire kit and kaboodle all at once. Lots of BlueSky is centralized so you don't have to worry about distribution, user, hosting, scaling, etc. and just focus on the frontend. It's the same reason why all the Lemmy and Mastodon apps look way better than the web versions, because all those other parts are no longer relevant and the creator(s) can focus on just putting out a polished product.