@Edent what's so bad about <div> ... or: Why do you want to avoid them?
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@Edent I want this for unicode.
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@rachel :shrug emoji with confused eyes:
@Edent that’s the overall feeling I get, too. I get I just need to buy a device and see
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@Edent I'm much in the same boat with similar intentions so no real world experience yet.
I've got my eye on a couple of Heltec v4 devboards. v4 because they support gnss which is interesting for a few 'fun' use cases I have with friends and while it seems Meshcore is the way to go in NL as its more widely used, I understand incan switch to meshtastic pretty easily using same hardware.
Heltec appear to have decent shipping methods from their own site but I've seen similar if not exactly the same ones on usual suspect large online retail shopfronts.
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@Edent I would go with meshtastic because of the bigger reach in terms of community. Meshcore has cool functions, but it's not that big yet. BUT! Since they devices are pretty cheap, especially if ordered bare from china, why not both?
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@Edent In the loft running as a relay:
Heltec V3 from Amazon
Case from Etsy that looks 3D printed
Antenna from ThePiHut (https://thepihut.com/products/lora-antenna-with-pigtail-868mhz-black)
Powered using PoE over ethernet plugged into a PoE to USB-C splitter. No networking over the ethernet, just a way to get power into the loft.Client device is a T1000-E (https://thepihut.com/products/sensecap-card-tracker-t1000-e-for-meshtastic) connected over bluetooth to my iPhone.
The firmware running on the relay is super stable. The T1000-E firmware is not as stable and I often have to reboot it every 2 or so days.
@dan @Edent I gave up on both Meshtastic and Meshcore.
(Ran MT for ~3 mo, and MC for ~6 mo)
Meshtastic was largely dead in our area (might have better luck in a more built up area).
Meshcore seemed to be mainly somewhere for people to talk about Meshcore and send “Test!” “RX” messages back and forth.
Unless you have a known, stable, local mesh I wouldn’t rely on either for emergency use…
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@Edent Neither are actually open source, I used Meshtastic for a year. Great for cities / festivals / mucking around.
Been using meshcore the last year or so.
Meshcore is MUCH more reliable for permanent setups, and usable for long range. We have like 200 meshcore nodes covering our whole state. Regularly messaging people hundreds of km away 12-14 hops.
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@Edent Neither are actually open source, I used Meshtastic for a year. Great for cities / festivals / mucking around.
Been using meshcore the last year or so.
Meshcore is MUCH more reliable for permanent setups, and usable for long range. We have like 200 meshcore nodes covering our whole state. Regularly messaging people hundreds of km away 12-14 hops.
This would be impossible on Meshtastic.@Edent I dislike Andy Kirby, and he’s investing in / building meshcore with a kiwi dev called Liam. Expecting enshittification in the future.
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@Edent from my (limited) experience, Meshtastic is better for telemetry-sending, and messaging is a side effect that people have grabbed hold of. As a result short-range comms work well. Meshcore is designed to be more of a message relaying system. Meshcore also has much longer range because of the relays. The cluster I participate in reaches from Hull to Isle of Wight.
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@Edent from my (limited) experience, Meshtastic is better for telemetry-sending, and messaging is a side effect that people have grabbed hold of. As a result short-range comms work well. Meshcore is designed to be more of a message relaying system. Meshcore also has much longer range because of the relays. The cluster I participate in reaches from Hull to Isle of Wight.
@Edent saw you asking elsewhere what people had bought. Here's my heltec V3 with a "10db antenna". It lives behind the velux blind in our bedroom.
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@Edent I've attended this seession a few days ago: https://techwerkers.nl/en/events/2026-01-15/
It was recorded.
They recommend MeshCore over Meshtastic.
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@Edent I've attended this seession a few days ago: https://techwerkers.nl/en/events/2026-01-15/
It was recorded.
They recommend MeshCore over Meshtastic.
@pini thank you - that's useful.
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@krahabors thanks. Any particular device you recommend?
@Edent I do not have anything new or fancy, I'm sure there will be better recommendations.
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@Edent @krahabors you have devices aimed at running of grid as a repeater. Then you need a low power device. heltec t114 will do, there are many more of course
If you have a device on constant USB power, or battery that should last a day heltecv3 or v4 are fine. -
@Edent I do not have anything new or fancy, I'm sure there will be better recommendations.
@krahabors I'm not interested in new or fancy. I just like tried and tested.
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@krahabors @Edent I don't know what an nrf controller is.
But I am learning: https://howtomechatronics.com/tutorials/arduino/arduino-wireless-communication-nrf24l01-tutorial/#transmitter-codeBut there are low power firmware variants. https://github.com/dt267/MeshCore-Low-Power-Firmware-For-Heltec-V3-V4
However for beginners (like me also) just stick to normal firmware.
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@krahabors I'm not interested in new or fancy. I just like tried and tested.
@Edent DIY combination of nrf52840 with sx1262, usually called faketec, is good enough for me. Even without common PCB, wired dead-bug style:)
There are factory made versions of that combination now and a lot of newer, probably better options. -
@krahabors @Edent I don't know what an nrf controller is.
But I am learning: https://howtomechatronics.com/tutorials/arduino/arduino-wireless-communication-nrf24l01-tutorial/#transmitter-codeBut there are low power firmware variants. https://github.com/dt267/MeshCore-Low-Power-Firmware-For-Heltec-V3-V4
However for beginners (like me also) just stick to normal firmware.
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@Edent smells ripe for a custom ad block rule
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@Edent I don't know if Benn Jordan has a presence on Mastodon, but I'm sure he'd have something to say on the subject. ..
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@ju menomale che è successo con qualcosa di facilmente sostituibile
ti rimborsano di tutto quanto, VERO?
(e soprattutto, l'avevi comprato per tempo e hai ancora scorte a sufficenza per qualche giorno, spero :) )
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Oggi ho finito di guardare Il Traditore di Marco Bellocchio sulla vicenda di Tommaso Buscetta. All'epoca io ero alle scuole superiori. Alla strage di Capaci cademmo tutti dal pero - letteralmente - perché nessuno ci aveva spiegato nulla e per noi, qui al Nord, la mafia era qualcosa di remoto. Sono passati tanti anni e spero che i ragazzi di oggi siano più fortunati di noi in quanto a consapevolezza. Film ottimo, l'ho gradito molto, soprattutto sul maxi processo.
#Unofilm #film #filmMastodon
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Vabbeh...
le Poste si sono perse il pacco, chissà a chi l'hanno consegnato.
Erano due sacchi da 15 chili di lettiera per gatti, buon pro gli faccia.
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@vitaut @oschonrock I'd suggest going for it anyway. AVX is basically when Intel finally started getting SIMD right.
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@davesh this isn't about me. (And, I think I'd rather just drink the Dr. Pepper, if I'm doing anything with it. Fermenting it into wine seems like a long road to a worse end.)
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@swelljoe You're telling me you wouldn't try Dr. Pepper wine?
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@InternetEh they're doing real freaky shit. Just about anything with sugar can be fermented into "wine", and there are folks making wine from soda, damned near every fruit and vegetable, and other random stuff (e.g. animal parts) thrown into something with sugar. Wine YouTubers are sick and someone needs to stop them. I keep clicking "don't show this channel" and there's always new ones.
