Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server.
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@digitalraven That's a 330% increase. That's way, way, way beyond anything I've seen which makes me wonder if this particular vendor is price gouging. Out of curiosity, have you shopped around at all?
@fuzzygroup @digitalraven this is not one vendor. Everything in RAM and solid state storage is basically sold out.
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To say that everyone involved in Anthropic, OpenAI, nVidia, Oracle, and the rest of the spicy-autocorrect bubble that surrounds these scum should be burned alive is AN INSULT TO FIRE
@digitalraven hospitals need fire. It's the only thing that destroys pathogens and parasites.
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven that could be used for serious calculations in physics and chemistry.
Imagine the amount of DFT iterations you could do on that thing
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
What a mess. They shouldn't be allowed to.buy up the whole global supply of RAM Like that
out of curiosity, what research are you doing?
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven@retro.pizza This is why I can't understand the idea that groups that need this kind of computing wouldn't just buy the hardware and learn to or find someone to manage it. A few months at September's prices would pay for some ridiculously powerful hardware. A few months at today's prices would pay for some ridiculously powerful and ridiculously overpriced hardware now.
Too many people believed the marketing bull telling everyone to move everything to "the cloud". People who don't understand that they're being led by salespeople also don't have the foresight to understand how badly things can go, at least not until they go badly, like they have now.
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@digitalraven@retro.pizza This is why I can't understand the idea that groups that need this kind of computing wouldn't just buy the hardware and learn to or find someone to manage it. A few months at September's prices would pay for some ridiculously powerful hardware. A few months at today's prices would pay for some ridiculously powerful and ridiculously overpriced hardware now.
Too many people believed the marketing bull telling everyone to move everything to "the cloud". People who don't understand that they're being led by salespeople also don't have the foresight to understand how badly things can go, at least not until they go badly, like they have now.
@AnachronistJohn I do not see the relevance of what you are saying, since it appears at best tangential to what I posted.
My research group _is_ buying the hardware and I am managing it, there is no "cloud" involved (except for the AI-boosting scum). It's a matter of timings, research grants, and budget approvals that we have to buy now rather than back in September.
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@AnachronistJohn I do not see the relevance of what you are saying, since it appears at best tangential to what I posted.
My research group _is_ buying the hardware and I am managing it, there is no "cloud" involved (except for the AI-boosting scum). It's a matter of timings, research grants, and budget approvals that we have to buy now rather than back in September.
@digitalraven@retro.pizza Oops. I misread. I thought this was cloud spending. My apologies
Yes, getting approval in appropriate amounts of time is difficult and timing always has Murphy's Law working against us.
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@digitalraven@retro.pizza Oops. I misread. I thought this was cloud spending. My apologies
Yes, getting approval in appropriate amounts of time is difficult and timing always has Murphy's Law working against us.
@AnachronistJohn It's all good. Apologies if I was a bit sharp there, I've been arguing with techbros on various platforms.
And yeah, this is in some ways just the latest way that research funding has found to make things as inconvenient as possible.
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven
Yep. We have to keep up with queries to the root and TLD nameservers, and the machines we need to do that have tripled in price in the last three months.
I'm _really_ looking forward to this bubble bursting. I cannot express in words, how much I yearn for that day to arrive. -
Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven Our compute vendor warned us that after March 30 their prices are going up 250% and to order everything we need before then, so we scrambled to put in a $30M order by this week.
Yesterday they told us they not only wouldn't be filling that order (we can try to resubmit it at the higher prices), but they won't guarantee they can fill anything at all for the rest of the year.
Things is gettin interesting.
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven this is how AI solves climate change. If enough people die carbon output will drop.
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Quote in September last year for a high-memory compute server. £28,000.
Quote today for the _exact same machine_. £90,500
This is for medical research. Saving lives. When I say LLMs are killing people by killing research computing, this is what I mean.
@davidgerard.co.uk @edzitron.com
@digitalraven I bought a used EPYC CPU + supermicro motherboard + 512GB RM combo å bit over å year ago for ~$1500.
The same combo today? Capped to 128GB RAM, at $2500. 1/4 the RAM at 1.7x the price for one year older hardware.
Oh and the hard drives we put in the server? Over 2x the price for the same capacity. The SSDs too.
It's so bad.
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If there were any justice, Sam Altman's impact on the world would be measured in mass graves.
@digitalraven how many mass graves to you get to a drowned child attempting to get to claim asylum in a country that has distanced itself from their plight.
I'm sure somebody, in some government agency, has that calculation on hand :(
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What a mess. They shouldn't be allowed to.buy up the whole global supply of RAM Like that
out of curiosity, what research are you doing?
@fluffykittycat We study cognitive and neurological factors over a long-term population (the first lot recruited in the 1920s). A lot of the results are into markers of Alzheimer's and various kinds of dementia, both potential ways of reducing effects and early detection.
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@Fabio Platone era un idiota che invidiava chi amava o era amato, entrambe cose evidentemente a lui negate.
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@TomF I was surprised by how astute this take is. I watch him for music stuff, his interviews with some of my favorite jazz musicians, e.g. Pat Metheny, who Beato obviously loves, are among the best that have ever been done. But, he understands a fundamental aspect of big expensive computers that a lot of people are somehow still missing about AI. There is an assumption that we'll need big data centers forever...or at least for the next decade or two so they can pay for themselves.
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Condire a piacere con abbondanti applausi, asservimento e leccate di culo a mezzo stampa e in TV, come i cortigiani che applaudivano l’imperatore nudo.
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Amore platonico (?)
Amore platonico è un modo usuale di definire una forma di amore priva della dimensione passionale (romantica) e sessuale. Infatti Platone considera l'attrazione fra i corpi il primo dei vari livelli di amore, benché egli aggiunga che questo livello vada abbandonato per giungere a quelli superiori (amore per l'anima, per le leggi e le istituzioni, per le scienze, assoluto)...
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🔁 condivisione gradita
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Quattro zaini, forse ho esagerato :-)
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@colorblindcowboy wandering shop? I don't know their CW policy though
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@salvatorelasorella @computer e anche con 350 milioni in tasca non si è mai voluto cambiare quegli occhiali Telefunken… 😜
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