I got a new phone.
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new phone's camera is adequate #boris
@aeva why is your cat so smooth and pretty 😭
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i ordered some dongles so I can listen to music on the new phone (or be able to hear anything at all in phone calls womp womp), but honestly i'm giving serious consideration to getting a dedicated mp3 player
@aeva If it had bluetooth, I'd probably go back to my resurrected iRiver H300, such a cool device. It does have great quality with wired headphones, but when I'm out I don't want to give up wireless bone conduction.
Plus it has one of the features I most miss on all modern devices: an input lock switch. No accidental button presses possible.
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@griotspeak @aeva they basically stopped production in june last year, if you didn't get yours (we didn't) before summer, it's unlikely you'll get one.
HOWEVER, the BOM and schematics are all opensource, so nobody would step someone from hitting their local manufacturer and get the shell and PCB's and buttons printed
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@griotspeak @aeva they basically stopped production in june last year, if you didn't get yours (we didn't) before summer, it's unlikely you'll get one.
HOWEVER, the BOM and schematics are all opensource, so nobody would step someone from hitting their local manufacturer and get the shell and PCB's and buttons printed
@zanagb @griotspeak my local manufacturer of /what/?
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@aeva why is your cat so smooth and pretty 😭
@pupxel boris is very good at being a cat ^_^
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@zanagb @griotspeak my local manufacturer of /what/?
Yeah, horrendous naming convention in our part.
Depending on where you are in the world you can ask some company to 3D print the case from it's schematics as well a send you a printed circuit board with most, if not all, the items on any given BOM soldered onto it. (probably outside of the MCU and display).
Of course there is nobody _manufacturing_ the tangaras but you probably can get most of it's components semi-assembled/soldered upon.
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new phone's camera is adequate #boris
i also like that this thing has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. i've got one set up to toggle on and off the flashlight function.
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Yeah, horrendous naming convention in our part.
Depending on where you are in the world you can ask some company to 3D print the case from it's schematics as well a send you a printed circuit board with most, if not all, the items on any given BOM soldered onto it. (probably outside of the MCU and display).
Of course there is nobody _manufacturing_ the tangaras but you probably can get most of it's components semi-assembled/soldered upon.
@zanagb @griotspeak is this something you personally have done?
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i also like that this thing has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. i've got one set up to toggle on and off the flashlight function.
@aeva this reads like the notes you find in a horror game
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@aeva this reads like the notes you find in a horror game
@pupxel "the device has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. I've got one to toggle on and off the flashlight function, one to operate the camera, and one to [sudden dramatic static] *painful dry coughing* it's not much, but in this god forsaken place you make do with what you can to survive."
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@pupxel "the device has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. I've got one to toggle on and off the flashlight function, one to operate the camera, and one to [sudden dramatic static] *painful dry coughing* it's not much, but in this god forsaken place you make do with what you can to survive."
@aeva ship it :3
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@zanagb @griotspeak is this something you personally have done?
@aeva No, but knowing the existence of replicas for old mac motherboards people can theoretically just download and ask their mousers and pcb ways to print would imply it is at least feasible to create a new Tangara from it's blueprints and bill of materials.
However, this feels like you're trying to angle the conversation in a way where you can lash out for suggesting that since the schematics and BOM's are FOSS, someone else could make a new run of devices on their own. So we're bailing out.
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@aeva No, but knowing the existence of replicas for old mac motherboards people can theoretically just download and ask their mousers and pcb ways to print would imply it is at least feasible to create a new Tangara from it's blueprints and bill of materials.
However, this feels like you're trying to angle the conversation in a way where you can lash out for suggesting that since the schematics and BOM's are FOSS, someone else could make a new run of devices on their own. So we're bailing out.
@zanagb no I just don't know how to do the thing you're suggesting, and am interested in information on how it works and what to expect for costs
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makes me wonder how hard it would be to build a mp3 player in a small white box with buttons halfassedly drawn on it. stuff an arduino into it. maybe there's some way to make the buttons work via capacitance?
@aeva OTOH what people really want is this.
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@zanagb no I just don't know how to do the thing you're suggesting, and am interested in information on how it works and what to expect for costs
@aeva Never had any experience asking one of these things as they aren't in our area. We looked into it specifically for the tangara. For costs we can't tell but for what it entails, if the retro macs are anything to go by, you could get 3D printed case sub-assemblies and can print a PCB based on the schematic with the option to have resistors,diodes and other off-the-shelf parts soldered, but apparently missing the big IC's. so some soldering may still be required. That's as far as we can read.
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@aeva Never had any experience asking one of these things as they aren't in our area. We looked into it specifically for the tangara. For costs we can't tell but for what it entails, if the retro macs are anything to go by, you could get 3D printed case sub-assemblies and can print a PCB based on the schematic with the option to have resistors,diodes and other off-the-shelf parts soldered, but apparently missing the big IC's. so some soldering may still be required. That's as far as we can read.
@zanagb do you know off hand if the design requires any surface mount soldering, or if it is all through-hole? I can do the 3D printing, and I can do some basic soldering, but I don't know how to fabricate PCBs and don't know how to do surface mount soldering (nor do I have a reflow setup)
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@aeva OTOH what people really want is this.
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i also like that this thing has three buttons that can be assigned their own functions. i've got one set up to toggle on and off the flashlight function.
alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
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alright, I got some dongles to add back in the missing headphone jack. it works ok, but the ones I purchased both add about two inches to the length of the phone. one inch for the solid part of the dongle, and one for the part where the cable doesn't really want to bend. they make L-bend dongles, but I wasn't sure if they'd be compatible with my case and I can just hear archimedes giggling with mischief looking at their product photos.
tbh I was hoping there would be audio dongles with minimal extension out of the usb-c port that would wrap under the phone with something like a ribbon cable and put all the electronics there, but I didn't see anything like that on amazon so I assume there's probably a good reason that's not actually a thing.
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tbh I was hoping there would be audio dongles with minimal extension out of the usb-c port that would wrap under the phone with something like a ribbon cable and put all the electronics there, but I didn't see anything like that on amazon so I assume there's probably a good reason that's not actually a thing.
all of this feel really silly since my favorite headphones has a tasteful 60 degree L-bend with a springy reinforcement on the cable so I can stuff that son of a gun into pockets where there's really no space for the cable at all and have everything be fine.
definitely feeling buyer's remorse on the lack of headphone jack, but they didn't have anything in the store that had one