@Mayabotics @quephird I think it's interesting that fedi hasn't filled the DA void.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Mayabotics @quephird I think it's interesting that fedi hasn't filled the DA void. i'm hopeful that it can get there some day though

[quephird@tech.lgbt]

@aeva @Mayabotics Oh gosh, that would be interesting!!!

[mayabotics@tech.lgbt]

@quephird @aeva As the post mentions, the big strike against Fedi being a replacement for DA is the discoverability problem, which is exacerbated by moderation actions being applied to entire instances and defederation.

This is the why I think "universal" sites/networks were an aberration, they can only exist if someone has a financial interest in the having disparate communities in continual contact with each other, and we know that's pretty harmful. But the flip side is that strong moderation tools to prevent that sort of thing can then become weapons in an intracommunity disagreement.

[mayabotics@tech.lgbt]

@quephird @aeva I don't envy any mods here, they are in a pretty much impossible situation having to balance two opposed concerns.

IRC had the same problem. The networks kept splitting because of disagreements among channel and network operators, and it became common to have an account on each of the major networks because that was the only way you can participate with all your communities.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Mayabotics @quephird i just miss the thing where there were places on the internet where it was ok to be a novice at something and you could befriend other novices and be kind of ok at something together as a shared experience and learn and grow together without it being drowned out in hustle culture and popularity contests. they don't all need to be the same place, but it would be nice if unexpected curiosities crossed over every now and then

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Mayabotics @quephird idk sometimes mastodon is that for me and sometimes it is not

[jon_valdes@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva @Mayabotics @quephird fedi is intentionally bad at search, and permanence. Lots of servers nuke attachments after 3 months :(

I'm really curious to see if something like https://subvert.fm/ takes off for music. If it does, maybe a spin-off to other art forms could work?

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@jon_valdes @Mayabotics @quephird ok music is a good example. I'm in the weird spot on here with the hobbyist-vs-popular false dichotomy described in the article where despite my high-ish follower count, I absolutely am a hobbyist with my music and I'm starving for the kind of community described in the article. I don't think bandcamp or a bandcamp clone is that?

[jon_valdes@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva @Mayabotics @quephird yep, totally fair.

This would only work if the for-profit part of the enterprise can subsidize the for-the-fun-of-it part of it. But it'd have to be a very conscious effort on the people building it to keep them both separate and well-funded. Tricky setup