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@hpod16 @dalcacer
imho no tax money needed for the fediverse. But support is very much needed. Support by presence (like yours), by taking it serious, by publicity.
It would be a slap in the face, though, if the EU would fund projects like W with money. The linked article https://bingx.com/en/news/post/eu-backs-million-launch-of-w-to-rival-x-beta-slated-by-february to me sounds as if the EU indeed is funding it: "European Union institutions and allied policymakers are supporting a €500 million initiative to launch W"@rudi @hpod16 Afaik, the development of Mastodon was in parts already funded. There was a bug bounty program and some 43k € well spent.
It might he wise to re-assure the commission by participating at https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-opens-call-evidence-open-source-digital-ecosystems
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@rudi @hpod16 @dalcacer I read that sentence as:
1. the vulture capitalists have a plan that takes 500 M€
2. Someone attached to the EU has said a kind word about the idea of a non-US social media platform.Not necessarily there being any direct connection even in the statements, even less so any funding from the EU.
@Gurre @rudi @hpod16 And coming from my original comment: I don’t thought of a money grab towards the EU but the general, let’s have a network funded and add some ads and algorithms to add some value for businesses.
In context of the buyFromEU/buyeuropean gist (on reddit and lemmy) this ideas get floated every second day. Mostly in regards to linked in and X.
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)@hpod16 what comes to mind is "double why?? we already have the Fediverse !"
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)@hpod16 Welcome to Mastodon, Hannah. It’s good to have a real human being here from the commission (so far, we’ve only had the main account, which is mostly a post-only source of empty platitudes).
Regarding W: It’s exactly the kind of “alternative” we don’t need. We don’t need to build our own torment nexus and slap an EU flag on it: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115932181066382822
What we do need are more noncommercial, independent initiatives working for the common good that are funded from the common purse. Here’s a short talk I gave at the European Parliament about this that goes into more detail: https://ar.al/2019/11/29/the-future-of-internet-regulation-at-the-european-parliament/
We’re working on building one such alternative, the Small Web (a free and open, noncommercial peer-to-peer web of personal social web sites), at Small Technology Foundation, our tiny two-person not-for-profit based in Ireland: https://small-tech.org
Again, welcome; looking forward to your posts :)
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@hpod16 lol, I just tried this URL: https://stage.wsocial.eu
It simply IS Bluesky. There's only Bluesky posts there, but pretending to be an European alternative 🤡 Unfortunately, WSocial has got full media coverage today. But
that actually works, does not!@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social where did you find the link? Does it use the Bluesky relay? That would be a hell of a start for our european independent social network @hpod16@eupolicy.social
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@hpod16 lol, I just tried this URL: https://stage.wsocial.eu
It simply IS Bluesky. There's only Bluesky posts there, but pretending to be an European alternative 🤡 Unfortunately, WSocial has got full media coverage today. But
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@ekari
It's that first step that is tricky. Finding the instance that suits you before you've had a chance to explore the platform.
That said, migrating instances isn't impossible, I just think that initial step overwhelms people. It did, me, the first time I tried MD years ago.
I probably still have a mastodon.social profile somewhere out there@hpod16 I'm in my first instance 😅
First change was to spread out from mastodon.social, and the second (final hopefully) jump was combination of things; like minded people, nice admin and 10 000 character posts 👌
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@doktorzjivago @hpod16 @dalcacer No, I don't think EU should run Mastodon instances or the like for the general public, only for official institutions. But EU should support the development of non-commercial federated social media like Mastodon.
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@hpod16 This instance „provides a communication environment for state authorities, state politicians, local authorities, public organisations and recognised non-profit organisations.“ (See https://social.schleswig-holstein.de/directory?order=new for examples.)
Agreed, we need more governments to have their own Mastodon instance. That way, they have their own recognisable social media channel that anyone can read, even without an account.
The Dutch government already has https://social.overheid.nl, where more and more organisations (including provinces and municipalities) are active. The city of Amsterdam has its own instance at https://social.amsterdam.nl.
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Agreed, we need more governments to have their own Mastodon instance. That way, they have their own recognisable social media channel that anyone can read, even without an account.
The Dutch government already has https://social.overheid.nl, where more and more organisations (including provinces and municipalities) are active. The city of Amsterdam has its own instance at https://social.amsterdam.nl.
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Some other (EU, DE, FR) government instances are listed on https://social.overheid.nl/about#:~:text=Duitsland,https://social.edps.europa.eu.
Hopefully, other EU countries will follow suit. It would be good if this were actively encouraged by the European Commission.
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@doktorzjivago @hpod16 @dalcacer No, I don't think EU should run Mastodon instances or the like for the general public, only for official institutions. But EU should support the development of non-commercial federated social media like Mastodon.
@kallekn @doktorzjivago @hpod16 They did 😀
And still, they could funnel some money in running an instance over a democracy oriented NGO or whatnot.
See, if instances can survive donation based and with passion of few, it would mean almost no cost for EU to fund or kick start an instance/campaign.
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@kallekn @doktorzjivago @hpod16 They did 😀
And still, they could funnel some money in running an instance over a democracy oriented NGO or whatnot.
See, if instances can survive donation based and with passion of few, it would mean almost no cost for EU to fund or kick start an instance/campaign.
@dalcacer @doktorzjivago @hpod16 They could and should support it more. But I seriously don't think they should be involved at all in running instances.
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@doktorzjivago @hpod16 @dalcacer No, I don't think EU should run Mastodon instances or the like for the general public, only for official institutions. But EU should support the development of non-commercial federated social media like Mastodon.
@kallekn @doktorzjivago @hpod16 @dalcacer
Hard agree on that. EU, national parliaments and governments should all run their own instances and host elected officials there.
Today, if I go to Twitter to see what an elected official has said, I often can’t read it without logging in.
This is a huge democracy obstacle.
Which in turn means that any journalist that is covering political issues also must have an account there.
This needs to change.
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@doktorzjivago @hpod16 @dalcacer No, I don't think EU should run Mastodon instances or the like for the general public, only for official institutions. But EU should support the development of non-commercial federated social media like Mastodon.
@kallekn
I think we need to talk more about how great EU's Next Generation Internet initiative is. Mastodon is just one out of hundreds of projects that have been much improved (or even made possible at all) thanks to it.Expanding it and duplicating it to other software fields is in my opinion the best shot at getting rid of all those icky foreign service and software dependencies.
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@ekari
It's that first step that is tricky. Finding the instance that suits you before you've had a chance to explore the platform.
That said, migrating instances isn't impossible, I just think that initial step overwhelms people. It did, me, the first time I tried MD years ago.
I probably still have a mastodon.social profile somewhere out there@hpod16 that's (partly) true, IMHO: ppl just want to register as quick as possible and might find the choice of servers as an obstacle.
On the other hand, ppl apparently like get on a wait list for Bluesky or now W-Bluesky 😅, which is the the opposite of an easy access.
But I do see the point and that's why https://joinmastodon.org basically says: "continue with mastodon.social or choose your individual server". It's a choice, not mandatory. Same as for not using any form of algorithm.
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@hpod16 that's (partly) true, IMHO: ppl just want to register as quick as possible and might find the choice of servers as an obstacle.
On the other hand, ppl apparently like get on a wait list for Bluesky or now W-Bluesky 😅, which is the the opposite of an easy access.
But I do see the point and that's why https://joinmastodon.org basically says: "continue with mastodon.social or choose your individual server". It's a choice, not mandatory. Same as for not using any form of algorithm.
@hpod16@eupolicy.social I do believe, though, that this should be communicated better!
For the rest, actually I found registering on
easier than on commercial platforms before, because it asks for less personal data. E-mail, username, password, that's it. No telephone number, no location or even ID (Facebook once asked me for it). Oh, your old profile on Mastodon probably is @hpod16 (easy, the same username, just on another instance).
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@hpod16 what comes to mind is "double why?? we already have the Fediverse !"
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@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social where did you find the link? Does it use the Bluesky relay? That would be a hell of a start for our european independent social network @hpod16@eupolicy.social
@SparkIT #WSocial (currently) uses Bluesky-everything, not just the relay or even just Bluesky's AT-protocol.
Menus, everything is identical, it shows 💯 posts coming from Bluesky from #Bluesky (and bridged
!) profiles. They only changed the landing page and even forgot to remove the name "Bluesky" from some meta texts and also from the legal notices 😅And I would lie if I said, I didn't simply google it. What some/many of the journalists out there should have done, too!
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@jetsoft @karlos @BrennpunktUA
I agree the phone app is a little... clunky.
I much prefer using Mastodon on my laptop.
Luckily that's my job and being logged in on social media 8 hours a day is already what I do. 💜@hpod16 just saying: you don't have to use the (official or any other)
app on your mobile either, to use Mastodon. You can simply log into https://eupolicy.social just as you do with your laptop.I personally prefer the web interface over apps anyways; and it's a quite well working one (IMHO)!
Also, you can install the eupolicy.social website as an "web app" on your phone and it will work similar to an app. Maybe you'll find yourself better with this option, too?
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@SparkIT #WSocial (currently) uses Bluesky-everything, not just the relay or even just Bluesky's AT-protocol.
Menus, everything is identical, it shows 💯 posts coming from Bluesky from #Bluesky (and bridged
!) profiles. They only changed the landing page and even forgot to remove the name "Bluesky" from some meta texts and also from the legal notices 😅And I would lie if I said, I didn't simply google it. What some/many of the journalists out there should have done, too!
@BrennpunktUA @SparkIT LOL
Well. Someone should probably tell these journalists about Mastodon...
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